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A Thesis of Angels Blog
08-08-2013, 07:17 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2013 07:49 PM by EqualAtheist.)
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A Thesis of Angels Blog
Due to the fact that I obviously need to start from the beginning, I will.

My thesis proves the existence of the Judeo-Christian God since before the Torah was written.

The first point in this Thesis is supported by Precession of Religion.

The oldest religion known is of the Sanpeople, which was worship of the snake creator. This recently discovered people date to 70, 000 b.c., and rebuke the notion that shamanism was the first religion on a global scale.

Shamanism definately was one of the first that we know, and the oldest shamanistic grave was discovered in israel dating back to 12, 000 b.c. Shamans predate this however, and can be found in Paleolithic caves across europe and the middle east.

Current archaeology once reflected the Sumerian Civilization as the first to have organized Religion and the first form of proto-script cunieform, which has been disproven. Recently, discoveries at several sites of the vincan empire have shown that this little known civilization not only had the first proto script, but it also had the oldest known religious system.

This religious system currently is known to consist of temples and holy texts. What is absolutely remarkable is the vincan culture is now known to have influenced early Ubaidian and Akkaidian periods of Mesopotamian peoples, and they had trade routes that stretched to the indus valley. What is absolutely fascinating is that the early vincan text has a swastika like the indus valley and subsequent buddhist religion.

The road to constantines church begins in the Sumerian culture with the stories of the enuma elish and epic of gilgamesh. Both of these stories directly influenced the bible, and more importantly Abraham.

Abraham lived near Ur, the Sumerian city of enlil. It is here the roots of judaic tradition begin, and end with modern christianity.

The precession of culture begins with the vincan empire that seeded sumer and egypt, this can be found by the figure of gilgamesh in abydoss, and later found inscribed on seals at harrapan, mohejo daro in the indus valley.

From here, the precession of religion begins to get a little more complicated. Greece adopted many egyptian gods, and also hermetic philosophy. Borrowing some aspects of the earlier minoan culture, it seeded the religious aspect of pagan rome.

The romans then became the catalyst later in history when constantine rose to power in Constantinople. Before his conquest of rome, he saw an ankh decend from heaven saying in this sign conquer.

He chose the symbol of the chi rho for several reasons...it was a combination of the egyptian tau and the staurogram which represented Christ in greek. He placed the chi rho on the sheikds of his soldiers, and successfully married christs doctrine to pagan tradition over s succession of years. After the council of nicaea, dozens of councils combined early tertullian and st.justin ideologies and created a hodge podge of old pagan traditiin and christs word. For example, the council of Ephesus. Once the home of the goddess diana, it became the council that originated mary worship similar to the mother goddess isis of egypt.

This is a problem because of the protestant movement...the 95 thesis did not attack the core problem of the catholic church and many heresies and schisms were transferred to protestants.

Now...there are 49, 000 different denominations of registered churches accross the world...the church is divided.

Christ warned against this and would be ashamed of our in fighting. He commanded us to love and serve...how many churches do you know that truly serve?

If we could stop dividing us on the basis of religion, schism or doctrine...we would be a unified species. We still can accomplish this, we must all come together and understand each other...if we can recognize the similarities that outnumber the differences, we could evolve as a species.

Terrestrial and celestial religions must accept each other, love must rule the day. As long as we are divided, we will never acheive our true potential.

We are arbiters of this earth.

Mankinds celestial knowledge began very early:

Timeline:          
The earliest records of celestial, solar and lunar movements can be found up to 40,000 B.C. Whether the origins are primitive hunter gatherer groups or established civilizations, there was a clear fixation with the heavens.
34,000 B.C. Kwazulu border cave: A Star pattern of Orion was found on baboon bone.
32,000 B.C. Abri Blanchard Bone: 
A30,000 year old record of moon precession was found carved into bone. (Pictured Left)
27,000 B.C. A Venus Figurine was discovered inLaussel France that shows the 13 lunar cycles and ancient fertility goddess worship.
26,000-15,000 B.C. Lascaux caves. Pleiades, Taurus and Sirius are a special fixation in these caves. (1)
7,180 – 6,140 B.C. Stonehenge’s first origins are laid.
6,500 B.C. The Ishango Bone was discovered to show lunar notation
5,000 B.C. Goseck Germany was erected similar to Stonehenge.
4,500 – 4,000 B.C. Nabta Playa, Egypt was one of the oldest cosmic observatories known in Egypt. (2)
4,000 B.C. Sumerians recorded Pleiades, Orion and other constellations as well as lunar and solar movements. (3. An clay tablet has been translated which records an asteroid approach on collision course 29th June3,123 BC- as documented by a Sumerian astronomer.
(3)3,500 – 3,000 B.C. Malta temples were aligned to solar and lunar movements (4)
3,300 B.C. The Boyne Valley Complex, Ireland wasaligned to solar and lunar movements. 
3,000 B.C. Giza plateau, Pyramids aligned to Orion’sbelt

Modern man is humbled aswell by egyptian cosmic knowledge:

Precession of the equinoxes:       

The precession of the equinoxes refers to the very slow, cyclic changes in the coordinates of the fixed stars that takes place with a period of some 26,000 years (25,920). The discovery of this phenomenon can be seen through three different mediums:

The first is through the successive re-alignment ofthe axis of symmetry of various temples as first noted by Sir N. Lockyer, which showed that the Egyptians were aware of the change in positions of the stars over the course of centuries. (The orientations of Egyptian temples were set with extreme precision by astronomical observations in accordance with their worship of the stars or the sun). (3) 

The second is in the suggestion that a knowledge of Precession is suggested in the dimensions of the great pyramid, which through accident or design, are a particularly accurate scale model of the Earth’s dimensions: (1:43,200). Which brings us to the third form in which evidence of precession is displayed in the form of sacred figures stored in myths, texts and the dimensions of sacred buildings. While this theory is not accepted by everyone, there has been some serious research in this subject (i.e. Hamlets Mill: Santillano), and it should not be dismissed out of hand.” (1:43,200)(A new constellation appears on the horizon each 2,160 years…)(…and 2,160 x 2 = 4,320 years)”    (3).

 Constellation knowledge:       

At least 43 constellations were familiar to the Egyptians in the 13th century B.C.The oldest known copies of an almanac date from 1220 BC at the time of Ramses the Great. In 1100 B.C. Amenhope wrote “Catalog of the Universe” in which he identified the major known constellations.    

They are also credited with writing 4 major astronomical works which were titled the following:1. On the Disposition of Fixed Stars and Stellar Phenomena,2. On the Disposition of the Sun, Moon and Five Planets3. On the Syzergies and Phases of the Sun and Moon,4. On Risings.      

These texts were not intended for publication, but were viewable only to the priesthood, which forbade the general exposure of their philosophy. It seems the same secrecy in the holiest of holies that exists today in our major religions, was also prevalent in ancient Egypt. The Bible is well known by laymen, but it is widely known the Catholic Church has numerous secrets of our past hidden away from common knowledge.     

This “secretive strategy” may help to explain why so little of Egyptian science has come down to us directly from the Egyptians, rather than indirectly from the Greeks such as Pythagoras, who was initiated into the Egyptian mysteries. (1I) 

Calendar:              

The invention of the 365-day calendar, based on astronomical observation- Mankind’s first ‘official’ measurement of time. The development probably took place at least as far back as 3,000 B.C. (1) Other cultures had this same measurement of time. Temples is Meso-America had temples with exactly 365 steps, signifying the number of days that are in one year.Round Earth:         

The first official measurement of the radius of the earth was made by the head of the library of Alexandria, Erasthenes. He was born in Cyrene (Libya) around 275 B.C. Pythagoras adapted many cosmic truths from Egypt where he spent many years of study. (1)       

Despite the lost works numbering more than the works preserved, we still can gain an incredible insight into the lives, beliefs and deeds of early Egyptians. It is safe to say that we do not truly grasp their knowledge or beliefs; even what we do know is mystify

Now my posts are getting moved?

What I posted was in no way in conflict with the rules here.

My other portion is as follows.

Mankinds celestial knowledge began very early:

Timeline:          
The earliest records of celestial, solar And lunar movements can be found up to 40,000 B.C. Whether the origins are primitive hunter gatherer groups or established civilizations, there was a clear fixation with the heavens.
34,000 B.C. Kwazulu border cave: A Star pattern of Orion was found on baboon bone.
32,000 B.C. Abri Blanchard Bone: 
A30,000 year old record of moon precession was found carved into bone. (Pictured Left)
27,000 B.C. A Venus Figurine was discovered inLaussel France that shows the 13 lunar cycles and ancient fertility goddess worship.
26,000-15,000 B.C. Lascaux caves. Pleiades, Taurus and Sirius are a special fixation in these caves. (1)
7,180 – 6,140 B.C. Stonehenge’s first origins are laid.
6,500 B.C. The Ishango Bone was discovered to show lunar notation
5,000 B.C. Goseck Germany was erected similar to Stonehenge.
4,500 – 4,000 B.C. Nabta Playa, Egypt was one of the oldest cosmic observatories known in Egypt. (2)
4,000 B.C. Sumerians recorded Pleiades, Orion and other constellations as well as lunar and solar movements. (3. An clay tablet has been translated which records an asteroid approach on collision course 29th June3,123 BC- as documented by a Sumerian astronomer.
(3)3,500 – 3,000 B.C. Malta temples were aligned to solar and lunar movements (4)
3,300 B.C. The Boyne Valley Complex, Ireland wasaligned to solar and lunar movements. 
3,000 B.C. Giza plateau, Pyramids aligned to Orion’sbelt

Modern man is humbled aswell by egyptian cosmic knowledge:

Precession of the equinoxes:       

The precession of the equinoxes refers to the very slow, cyclic changes in the coordinates of the fixed stars that takes place with a period of some 26,000 years (25,920). The discovery of this phenomenon can be seen through three different mediums:

The first is through the successive re-alignment ofthe axis of symmetry of various temples as first noted by Sir N. Lockyer, which showed that the Egyptians were aware of the change in positions of the stars over the course of centuries. (The orientations of Egyptian temples were set with extreme precision by astronomical observations in accordance with their worship of the stars or the sun). (3) 

The second is in the suggestion that a knowledge of Precession is suggested in the dimensions of the great pyramid, which through accident or design, are a particularly accurate scale model of the Earth’s dimensions: (1:43,200). Which brings us to the third form in which evidence of precession is displayed in the form of sacred figures stored in myths, texts and the dimensions of sacred buildings. While this theory is not accepted by everyone, there has been some serious research in this subject (i.e. Hamlets Mill: Santillano), and it should not be dismissed out of hand.” (1:43,200)(A new constellation appears on the horizon each 2,160 years…)(…and 2,160 x 2 = 4,320 years)”    (3).

 Constellation knowledge:       

At least 43 constellations were familiar to the Egyptians in the 13th century B.C.The oldest known copies of an almanac date from 1220 BC at the time of Ramses the Great. In 1100 B.C. Amenhope wrote “Catalog of the Universe” in which he identified the major known constellations.    

They are also credited with writing 4 major astronomical works which were titled the following:1. On the Disposition of Fixed Stars and Stellar Phenomena,2. On the Disposition of the Sun, Moon and Five Planets3. On the Syzergies and Phases of the Sun and Moon,4. On Risings.      

These texts were not intended for publication, but were viewable only to the priesthood, which forbade the general exposure of their philosophy. It seems the same secrecy in the holiest of holies that exists today in our major religions, was also prevalent in ancient Egypt. The Bible is well known by laymen, but it is widely known the Catholic Church has numerous secrets of our past hidden away from common knowledge.     

This “secretive strategy” may help to explain why so little of Egyptian science has come down to us directly from the Egyptians, rather than indirectly from the Greeks such as Pythagoras, who was initiated into the Egyptian mysteries. (1I) 

Calendar:              

The invention of the 365-day calendar, based on astronomical observation- Mankind’s first ‘official’ measurement of time. The development probably took place at least as far back as 3,000 B.C. (1) Other cultures had this same measurement of time. Temples is Meso-America had temples with exactly 365 steps, signifying the number of days that are in one year.Round Earth:         

The first official measurement of the radius of the earth was made by the head of the library of Alexandria, Erasthenes. He was born in Cyrene (Libya) around 275 B.C. Pythagoras adapted many cosmic truths from Egypt where he spent many years of study. (1)       

Despite the lost works numbering more than the works preserved, we still can gain an incredible insight into the lives, beliefs and deeds of early Egyptians. It is safe to say that we do not truly grasp their knowledge or beliefs; even what we do know is mystify
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08-08-2013, 07:50 PM
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RE: Precession of Religion
Woah wait a second.

Tertullian and Justin Martyr are like complete opposites of each other. Justin reflects early Christianity, and taught Tritheism, not Modalism, not Monarchianism, not Consubstantial Trinitarianism. Tertullian taught Consubstantial Trinitarianism, and now almost all of Christianity does.

In my opinion, the first step in restoring Christianity to its roots is to weed out every Patristic/Scholastic/Protestant doctrinal innovation that came after Tertullian. Unfortunately, when the Protestants weeded out the Pope, they turned to Augustine of all people, a man who conjured more innovations than almost anyone else, and who came from a Manichean background. If people turned to Justin, or to Papias, or to Polycarp, Ignatius, and Clement, they would have found a Christianity different from what the Protestants conjured up, but also different from that conjured by the Catholics and Orthodox.

Now, as pertains the rest of your subject:

I'm confused as to what you are trying to teach. That the Jews and Christians plagiarized their god from older religion, and that he probably is imaginary and fictional, but that polyreligious pluralism is good for the soul of mankind, because ideally, it ends all wars and what not? Or that older religions form part of the same Judeo-Christian heritage as Judaism and Christianity, and all originated with the same one true god?

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08-08-2013, 07:53 PM
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RE: A Thesis of Angels Blog
Thank you for moving the second part into your blog
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08-08-2013, 07:56 PM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2013 07:56 PM by EqualAtheist.)
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Yefet....Well.... I did that. Shiver.... um, yeano....

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08-08-2013, 08:21 PM
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(08-08-2013 07:56 PM)EqualAtheist Wrote:  Yefet....Well.... I did that. Shiver.... um, yeano....

What did I say that was bad? Confused...

Unless you're talking to Yefet alone, saying it couldn't have been me who moved the topic?

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