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Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved
11-04-2008, 02:55 PM
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Exclamation Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved
A new scientist one day emerged. His name was Charles Trumpupwin. Trumpupwin proposed a brand new theory and claimed that ghosts really exist. He brought out a book called On the Origin of Ghosts. “I have developed a new theory. I do not yet have any evidence for it, but I will have eventually,” he said. He accused those who opposed him and said there was no such thing as ghosts of being “opposed to science.” He developed the following formula for his theory:

xy{f(x)±g(x)}+energy+photonal effect+(an+1)/ an+electricity+òf(x)+g(x) = proto-ghost

òxndx+water vapor+log1/x+sinhx/coshx+electricity+f(1+x2) = intermediate ghost

tangx+(xy)2.yx+cosmic rays+glogx2+water vapor«g(x)+radiation = almost complete ghost

afx2+wcos x2+(f(x)±g(x)+radiation+lfx3+(xy2+yx2)p+energy = complete ghost

Although Trumpupwin had no scientific evidence in his possession, he tried to demonstrate that his claim that ghosts exist is a scientific one by using these formulae.

Trumpupwin claimed that ghosts form out of water vapor. He maintained that water vapor envelops the bodies of people walking in the streets and then itself assumes human form. He then suggested that after completing their development on the surface of the sea they rise into the sky, finally establishing colonies in the clouds. He claimed that the clouds also assume different forms from time to time, sometimes coming to resemble human beings and animals at other times. He maintained that the first primitive ghost, proto-ghosts in other words, emerged in this way, achieving the first stage of physical growth in this phase.

He claimed that proto-ghosts emerged when the air was charged with electrical ions, when lightning bolts were striking, and that this reinforced their physical development.

Neo-trumpupwinists maintained that ghosts assume their forms from people on television. They said that they are charged with ions from the images of people on the television and then depart from the region in the form of water vapor. They also claimed that when human breath makes contact with the images of people in films on cinema screens, the ions in those take shape by attaching themselves to that breath, and that the result is punctuated ghosts.

The main idea underlying Trumpupwin’s theory is this: “Certain functional phenomena can take place in nature as a natural reflection of fantasies in nature, otherwise known as ‘the law of free fantasy.’ This law is the principle factor underlying the emergence of all ghosts. This is an absolute fact. Nobody can deny it.” He continued with his peculiar claims by saying, “Nobody who has not read my book can fully understand me.”

The whole world of science, world famous universities and world famous scientists warmly embraced this theory. “Opposing Trumpupwinism is the same as opposing science” they said. “Anyone opposing this theory must be sacked, and any students critical of Trumpupwinism must be expelled” they said. “How is it possible for anyone not to believe the theory when it possesses thousands of different formulae?” they asked. It seemed as if this new theory would keep the public occupied for a long time to come.

This new theory of ghosts somehow bore a very close resemblance to Darwin’s theory of evolution. Darwin first claimed that such a thing as evolution existed and then claimed he would find the evidence for it. He looked for evidence but failed to find any. Darwin and the Darwinists who followed him also claimed that their theory was scientific, though they were unable to provide a single piece of supporting evidence. They also accused those who said “the theory of evolution is not scientific, but a lie” of being “opposed to science.” Despite not having the slightest piece of supporting evidence, they propagandized the nonsense of evolution using articles full of obscure terminology and hoax formulae. Darwin’s claim of evolution is no different to Trumpupwin’s theory of ghosts. But chemical formulae and scientific terminology changed nothing. And now, by the will of Allah (God), the whole world is aware that Darwinism is utter nonsense.

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TRUMPUPWIN - DARWIN

Trumpupwin: “Darwin is my nephew. We both leaned our backs against a willow tree and adopted this pose with shepherds’ smocks. I in fact look identical to my nephew, but the ghosts got to me, which is why I am as I am now. I shall go into this in more detail in my book ‘My life and recollections’.” But we did not find this at all convincing. It looked more like something made up in a photographic studio.

THIS FICTITIOUS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE WHAT AN UGLY DECEPTION DARWINISM IS. DARWINISM ITSELF IS BASED ON EXACTLY THE SAME FLAWED LOGIC.
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11-04-2008, 03:27 PM
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Read the evidence. Anything by Richard Dawkins is a good start. Emotional arguments like yours are childish.
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11-05-2008, 02:23 PM
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Messenger Wrote:Read the evidence. Anything by Richard Dawkins is a good start. Emotional arguments like yours are childish.

Agreed. Although with the enormous amount of evidence supporting evolution, I think anyone claiming there is *no* evidence is just showing their own ignorance.

Besides, creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive.

If ignorance is bliss why aren't there more happy people?
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11-06-2008, 02:10 PM (This post was last modified: 11-06-2008 02:11 PM by GODisONE.)
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Many are surprised to discover that the Quran states that evolution is a divinely designed fact:

Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (Quran 21:30, 24:45)

Evolution is possible only within a given species. For example, the navel orange evolved from seeded oranges, not from apples. The laws of probablity preclude the possibility of haphazard evolution between species. A fish cannot evolve into a bird; a monkey can never evolve into a human.

Probability Laws Preclude Darwin's Evolution

In this computer age, we have mathematical laws that tell us whether a certain event is probable or not. If we throw five numbered cubes up in the air and let them fall into a guided straight line, the probability laws tell us the number of possible combinations we can get: 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 = 120 combinations. This probability diminishes fast when we increase the number of cubes. If we increase them by one, the number of combinations becomes Thus, the probability of obtaining any combination is 1 in 120, or 1/120, or 0.0086.1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 = 720, and the probability of getting any combination diminishes to 1/720, 0.0014. Mathematicians, who are very exacting scientists, have agreed that the probability diminishes to "Zero" when we increase the number of cubes to 84. If we work with 84 cubes, the probability diminishes to 209 x 10 (raised to the power of) -50, or

0 . 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000209

Darwin's famous statement that "life began as a `simple' cell" is laughable. As recently as 70 years ago, Wells, Huxley, and Wells wrote in their classic textbook that "nothing can be seen inside the nucleus but clear fluid." We know now that the cell, is an extremely complex unit, with billions of nucleotides in the gene material inside the nucleus, and millions of biochemical reactions. The probability laws tell us that the probability of the haphazard creation of the exacting sequences of nucleotides into DNA is Zero, many times over. We are not talking about 84 nucleotides; we are talking about billions of nucleotides that must be arranged in a specific sequence.

Some evolutionists have stated that the human gene and the monkey's gene are 90% similar. However, even if the similarity was 99%, we are still talking about 300,000,000 nucleotides that must be haphazardly re-arranged to change the monkey into a human. The probability laws preclude this as an utter impossibility. The human gene contains 30,000,000,000 nucleotides; 1% of that is 300,000,000.

A fitting quote here is that of Professor Edwin Conklin; he stated:

The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the Unabridged Dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing factory.
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11-06-2008, 02:55 PM
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RE: Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved
In the Middle Ages, everyone in Europe thought lightening was a punishment from God. Then, Benjamin Franklin invented the lightening rod and people discovered that if you had a lightening rod on your house, God didn't smite you. Eventually, the notion that lightening was anything other than a natural phenomenon died out.

Evolution is the same science versus religion battle. In a few decades, everyone will have accepted that evolution is correct and sacred scriptures have flaws and moved on.

Every time religion has pitted itself against science, it has lost. This time won't be any different.
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11-06-2008, 03:28 PM
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Messenger Wrote:In the Middle Ages, everyone in Europe thought lightening was a punishment from God. Then, Benjamin Franklin invented the lightening rod and people discovered that if you had a lightening rod on your house, God didn't smite you. Eventually, the notion that lightening was anything other than a natural phenomenon died out.

Evolution is the same science versus religion battle. In a few decades, everyone will have accepted that evolution is correct and sacred scriptures have flaws and moved on.

Every time religion has pitted itself against science, it has lost. This time won't be any different.

Actually, it is the opposite. Science is proving GOD. The more we learn about our universe, the more complex it becomes. The probability of our universe, the earth, and life itself being a random accident keeps decreasing as we learn more. Ignorance is no excuse for disbelief in the obvious that there is a GOD, one GOD alone who designed everything.

In case you didn't catch the first part of my previous post, the Quran states very clearly that all life was initiated from water. Thus, evolution is a fact, but it is Divinely guided, not random mutation.

Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (Quran 21:30, 24:45)

As we all know the knowledge of evolution was not known 1400+ years ago. This is just one example of numerous scientific facts stated in Quran that has been proven true by modern scientific discoveries well after the revelation of Quran.
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11-06-2008, 04:06 PM
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GODisONE Wrote:Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (Quran 21:30, 24:45)

Life began "in" water, not "from" water. At best this vague reference is a coincidence. If it contains detailed information about RNA (the precursor to DNA) or amino acids, then it would be interesting.

If you shoot randomly into the sky, eventually you are going to hit a few birds. The selective reading of hundreds of vague coincidences does not constitute valid scientific prediction. Stop constructing jerry-rigged "proofs". They convince no one other than those that are already believers.

And, read the chapter on evolution in university level biology textbooks. Most of your arguments were refuted decades ago.
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11-06-2008, 04:24 PM
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RE: Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved
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GODisONE Wrote:Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (Quran 21:30, 24:45)

Life began "in" water, not "from" water. At best this vague reference is a coincidence. If it contains detailed information about RNA (the precursor to DNA) or amino acids, then it would be interesting.

If you shoot randomly into the sky, eventually you are going to hit a few birds. The selective reading of hundreds of vague coincidences does not constitute valid scientific prediction. Stop constructing jerry-rigged "proofs". They convince no one other than those that are already believers.

And, read the chapter on evolution in university level biology textbooks. Most of your arguments were refuted decades ago.

There is nothing "jerry-rigged" about a 1400 year old book revealing scientific facts unknown until centuries later. The proofs of the Quran's Divine authorship is irrefutable. All you atheists can do is bash with conjecture. Conjecture is no substitute for the truth.

You are right about one thing though, only the believers can see GOD's proofs of the truth. Disbelievers are divinely blocked from seeing any of GOD's proofs that surround every waking minute. So, your response is nothing knew. You HAVE to rebut because of your fear of being wrong, and so you should fear the day of Judgment.
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11-06-2008, 04:25 PM
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RE: Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved
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GODisONE Wrote:Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (Quran 21:30, 24:45)

Life began "in" water, not "from" water. At best this vague reference is a coincidence. If it contains detailed information about RNA (the precursor to DNA) or amino acids, then it would be interesting.

If you shoot randomly into the sky, eventually you are going to hit a few birds. The selective reading of hundreds of vague coincidences does not constitute valid scientific prediction. Stop constructing jerry-rigged "proofs". They convince no one other than those that are already believers.

And, read the chapter on evolution in university level biology textbooks. Most of your arguments were refuted decades ago.

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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11-06-2008, 05:49 PM
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GODisONE Wrote:Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

What does that mean?

I have read much of the Quran if that's what you're alluding to. I've also visited sites that list the "miracles" in the Quran.
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