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Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
12-04-2009, 03:18 AM
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Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
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NEW DELHI, Dec 3 (Reuters) - India will not accept a legally binding emission cut nor a peak year of carbon emissions at the global climate talks in Copenhagen

Hide The Decline - Climategate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
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12-04-2009, 01:56 PM
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
(12-04-2009 03:18 AM)catholicstation Wrote:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

funny Big Grin

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12-04-2009, 03:19 PM
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
Funny video, but after reading the leaked email where the notorious words, hide the decline appears, I'd be reluctant to attach any importance to it without a thorough understanding of the context. No doubt this difficulty also applies to other emails from which damning sounding phrases have been lifted and hysterically spouted by the denialists.

Quote:From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: ray bradley <rbradley@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@xxxxxxxxx.xxx,t.osborn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers
Phil
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12-04-2009, 03:50 PM
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
I've been debating this over at politicalforum.com

Here's, as the young kids of yesterday said, "the straight dope".

The e-mails involved were very candid, and unprofessional. They may (and I stress may) indicate fraud on behalf of a very few scientists. It is not necessarily fraud. Official sources have claimed that they were simply speaking casually, and that "trick" refers not to a method to deceive, but rather a method of looking at the data to understand it better. Regardless, the e-mails were certainly unprofessional.

Ultimately, though, this means absolutely nothing for the climate change debate. Indeed, one of the most telling aspects of the e-mails is that not once does it mention Soros, Obama, a conspiracy with other scientists, or any sort of systemized attempt to alter the data. If there is fraud, it is very individual and specific to these scientists (and if it is fraud, they should be blackballed from the scientific community, as other fraudsters have been.)

So far from being the deathblow to global climate change, these e-mails show that there is no conspiracy among scientists, and thus the 2,000 scientists whose work went into the UN report were most likely completely legitimate. The vast majority of scientists, especially those involved with climate studies, continue to support global climate change, and these e-mails have absolutely no bearing on them.

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12-12-2009, 04:03 AM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2009 04:07 AM by catholicstation.)
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
The dirty little secret - It is not about scientists reporting false numbers and data - It is about population control and how many more babies we can abort

You want to abort babies and have a China - 1 child policy?

Start with Obama - make it retroactive - make Him choose which of His kids lives or dies
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12-12-2009, 03:41 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2009 04:45 PM by clarence clutterbuck.)
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
(12-12-2009 04:03 AM)catholicstation Wrote:  The dirty little secret - It is not about scientists reporting false numbers and data - It is about population control and how many more babies we can abort

You want to abort babies and have a China - 1 child policy?

Start with Obama - make it retroactive - make Him choose which of His kids lives or dies

Could you enlarge on the population control theory 'cause it does not compute in relation to the story of the climate scientists emails?

World population growth does look like becoming an issue over the next century if the anticipated effects of climate change take hold and cause desertification and famines in many places, but I see no evidence that there is any strategy to limit population growth by compulsory means in any country apart from China.

What does seem to be true is that birth rates are highest in the poorest countries where children are likeliest to experience deprivation, and lowest where families have access to birth control, which is why birthrates are declining in developed countries.

I can't help thinking that access to birth control is a good thing that should be encouraged in the interests of sustainability, both of human population and of the other species who share the planet and make life here a quality experience.

IMHO, it would be a good thing with respect to world population control and tackling the scourge of AIDS if the pope was to modernise his attitudes on the issue of family planning and actively encourage it.
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12-17-2009, 06:58 AM
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RE: Climate-Gate Religion Exposed
(12-12-2009 03:41 PM)clarence clutterbuck Wrote:  
(12-12-2009 04:03 AM)catholicstation Wrote:  The dirty little secret - It is not about scientists reporting false numbers and data - It is about population control and how many more babies we can abort

You want to abort babies and have a China - 1 child policy?

Start with Obama - make it retroactive - make Him choose which of His kids lives or dies

Could you enlarge on the population control theory 'cause it does not compute in relation to the story of the climate scientists emails?

Eugenics (planned parenthood, Hitlers final solution)

- why do they put abortion mills in black communities? -

Margret Sanger was a racist whom wanted to exterminate the inferior black population
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12-17-2009, 10:33 AM
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Elective abortion is performed at the pregnant woman's request, and therefore does not qualify as Eugenics, which is according to Wiki, "a social philosophy which claims that human hereditary traits can be improved through social intervention.
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12-17-2009, 10:51 AM (This post was last modified: 12-17-2009 11:02 AM by catholicstation.)
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abortion was performed at the request of Hitler to exterminate the jewish population

Yes it is eugenics

1 day or 12 years or 25 years - The Nazi useless eaters

Pro_choice
Unmarried women have the right not to open their legs
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12-17-2009, 12:11 PM (This post was last modified: 12-17-2009 12:14 PM by Raphael.)
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(12-17-2009 10:51 AM)catholicstation Wrote:  The Nazi useless eaters

ironic that catholic station likes to pick on the Nazis.
I wonder why?
feel guilty?
guilty by aSSociation? Sad

may I remind catholic station that Hitler was raised a Roman Catholic Christian who would grow up, and his belief system became Mein Kampf, and later Hitler would lead a nation weaned on Christ to become goose stepping roaming Roman Catholics, Protestants and Anglicans and and and ?

Could Hitler have accomplished his Kampf if the Germans had been weaned on Buddhism or Jainism instead of RC Christianity?
The answer is OBVIOUS.
Both Buddhists and Jains still worship the swastika.
And the Navajo and Hopi would love to again. Angel

JC was correct ... Christianity, Judaism and Islam are ALL WAR MYTHOLOGIES.

namaste

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