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Does GOD matter
04-27-2010, 10:55 PM
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Does GOD matter
Does GOD matter ??


well technically only if GOD is matter ....



GOD
If all laws of the known universe apply to all matter ( everything in existence ), both organic and non-organic, then the following apply's.


matter = all matter is either

1 single molecule or
2 or more molecules formed together to form a duplicate, or a new element altogether.


LIFE - organic matter ( still matter, so must still follow the same laws )

then all LIFE is either.

1 single celled organism or
2 or more single celled organisms formed together to form a duplicate, or a new organism altogether.

( which Life is exactly that, so it follows the same rules.


The universe contains all of the matter that we know exists.

The universe also contains all organic matter that we know, and do not know about yet.



We know that living organic matter, can have a consciousness.

as far as we know, non organic matter does not have a consciousness ( and debating this is futile, as NO ONE knows )


If the universe is ALL MATTER, then well I guess technically it is SOLID.


so we are in one GIANT SOLID BODY.


we know we have consciousness, so by applying laws of matter, that consciousness would also fill the universe.


SO GOD is the consciousness of the BODY ( the universe )

just as " WE " are the consciousness of our body's, and so on, and so one

( AS ABOVE, SO BELOW )


universe: FINITE
INFINITE: the number of universes within our universe, and the number of universes we are within.

WHAT THEY SAY

big bang -- expansion -- ????


I SAY

big birth -- - growth -- death


as each universe ( dies ), another is born,


so the number of universes seems infinite, but a universe is just following the basic laws of life an death and rebirth, and so on , and so one.



TAKE ANY KNOWN LAW AGAINST THIS THEORY

physics, space, time, energy, matter, motion, gravity, etc.


If this THEORY can stand up to ALL laws, what does that mean ??





Just a thought.




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05-26-2010, 03:28 PM
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RE: Does GOD matter
This is an interesting thought. This idea does indeed have a scientific connotation and feeling to it.

However, I contradict the idea that God only matters if God IS matter. I believe that the person of God is more important than if he is matter. Jesus Christ came as a man, God manifest in the flesh. He died to pay the penalty for your sin and mine; his blood atones and is the substitute for our sin.

The idea that God only matters because of what he is made of is ludicrous. The Bible is deliberately clear that God is spirit, and that the only person of the Trinity that has been manifest in the flesh is Jesus Christ. The rejection of Jesus Christ as the Son of God is blasphemous and deadly. To do such is damnable.

However, to answer your question, God does matter. Scripture is clear on this. If you say God doesn't matter, then you are rejecting His free gift of eternal life, and you are putting yourself on the pedastal with God, thus making yourself a God. To say God doesn't matter is to reject all evidence for God, and therefore if you do, you are on your way to Hell.
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05-26-2010, 03:56 PM
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RE: Does GOD matter
Oh my. So many assumptions...

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  I believe that the person of God is more important than if he is matter.

Wouldn't whether God is matter or not be a part of defining his/her personhood? Can one have personhood without physical form?

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  Jesus Christ came as a man, God manifest in the flesh.

Isn't this a logical contradiction? God=infinite, human=finite? Therefore an infinite God being manifest in finite form would be impossible.

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  He died to pay the penalty for your sin and mine; his blood atones and is the substitute for our sin.

The bible condemns human sacrifice.

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  The Bible is deliberately clear that God is spirit, and that the only person of the Trinity that has been manifest in the flesh is Jesus Christ.

God is spirit, but God also is flesh vis-a-vis Jesus? Contradiction?

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  If you say God doesn't matter, then you are rejecting His free gift of eternal life...

If it is a free gift, then why do I need to accept it for the power of the gift to work? Doesn't that make my power of choice more powerful than God's free gift?

(05-26-2010 03:28 PM)jmoore2 Wrote:  To say God doesn't matter is to reject all evidence for God, and therefore if you do, you are on your way to Hell.

While I'm not old by any means, I've been at this for a few years now. Let's hear your evidence for God.
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