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End Time signs
07-24-2010, 02:38 PM
Post: #1
End Time signs
What end time signs are you noticing?

The Bible reveals:

1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3) See some at:

2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.

What are your thoughts on points 11, 13 and 22 in particular?
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07-24-2010, 09:42 PM
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RE: End Time signs
(07-24-2010 02:38 PM)Aijan7d Wrote:  What end time signs are you noticing?

The Bible reveals:

1. False Bible teachers would be money hungry. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3) See some at:

2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

3. Earthquakes would be in diverse places (Matthew 24:7)

4. Stress would be part of living (2 Timothy 3:1)

5. Many wars would erupt (Matthew 24:6)

6. People would forsake the Ten Commandments as a moral code, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and killing (Matthew 24:12)

7. There would be a cold religious system, in denying God's power (2 Timothy 3:5)

8. Men would substitute fantasy in place of Christian truth (2 Timothy 4:4). This is so evident at Christmas when the birth of the Savior is lost behind the myth of Santa Claus.

9. Deadly diseases would be prevalent (Matthew 24:7). The worldwide increase in AIDS deaths is almost inestimable. Over 160,000 Americans die of cancer each year.

10. The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by the scientific world because of its uncanny implication.

11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)

12. There would be an increase in famines (Matthew 24:7)

13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)

14. There would be a cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

15. The possession of Jerusalem would be at the center of international turmoil (Zechariah 12:3)

16. Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4)

17. There would be hypocrites within the Church (Matthew 13:25-30)

18. There would be an increase of religious cults/false teachers (Matthew 24:11 & 24)

19. The future would seem fearful to many (Luke 21:26)

20. Humanity would become materialistic (2 Timothy 3:4)

21. There would be many involved in travel (Daniel 12:4)

22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)

23. Jesus said Christians would be hated "for His name's sake" (Matthew 24:9)

24: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.

What are your thoughts on points 11, 13 and 22 in particular?

Sounds like the Commies are coming to destroy the world. This is 1917, isn't it?
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07-25-2010, 03:32 PM (This post was last modified: 07-25-2010 04:03 PM by vociferous.)
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RE: End Time signs
(07-24-2010 02:38 PM)Aijan7d Wrote:  Whatever you said... too long.

What are your thoughts on points 11, 13 and 22 in particular?

Silly girl/woman (my apologies, sincerely), you are one in a long line of doomsayers who gets it all wrong. All of these have been present for thousands of years. Homosexuality was heavily prevalent, even up to the 800s in Persia. Hypocrisy in the church is actually LESS than it was during the Middle Ages. Plague ravaged Europe and Asia for hundreds of years--smallpox, syphilis, polio, and numerous, numerous others. And since when are Christians hated?!? They make up 1/3rd of the Earth's population. If anything, Jews and Muslims are more hated.

The future has always been feared. Man tries to resist change, and any sudden change always seems bad. Like Luddites. Or doomsayers.
There has been no increase in earthquakes. However, because the world is more connected, we now "see" more, since we can report them.

The Church always had corruption. Remember indulgences during the Middle Ages?
Also, there are less wars than in the past, actually. For hundreds of years, Europe and Asia were ravaged in huge wars of conquest, and the like. Stress also has always been part of living, maybe even more so than it is now.

And the flood? That's speculation. Fossils so far do not record of any such flood occuring, especially within the Biblical timeline (~3000 BCE).

Sorry, but you are wrong.
Also, my opinions? For hundreds of years, especially serfdom, near-vegetarianism was the norm. Most people could not afford meat... period. And Christmas? That was never Jesus's birthday? It was made by the early Church to coincide precisely with a Roman pagan holiday. Jesus was born around the census time, in 3 BCE, which was April.

Famines? There are less famines than there were hundreds of years ago also. Or even 40 years ago. Many people are hungry, but not nearly as many as before.
Any more "speculation"? The only one I can't refute is rebellious youth, since any prior knowledge is hearsay.
Jerusalem has always been vied for? Remember the Crusades? Yeah. Peace? Since the Peace of Westphalia, we have gotten better at crying for peace but not much better and getting it.
Knowledge increase? That's modelled on a slope. Ever since the Greco-Roman times (and even before), even the knowledge of the dumbest civilian has increased.

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07-25-2010, 10:19 PM
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RE: End Time signs
Well said Voci, everything above is as obvious as the nose on your face, for thousands of years the Doomies have been dying unfulfilled, no rapture, no ruling as kings, but as P. T. Barnum said...."There's a sucker born every minute".

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07-25-2010, 10:47 PM
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RE: End Time signs
People like to think they are the last generation. Tsk tsk tsk. (Well, it might be true, with global warming and nuclear war.)

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07-26-2010, 04:58 PM
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RE: End Time signs
(07-24-2010 02:38 PM)Aijan7d Wrote:  ...
11. The institution of marriage would be forsaken by many (1 Timothy 4:3)
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13. Increase in vegetarianism would increase (1 Timothy 4:3-4)
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22. The Christian Gospel would be preached as a warning to all nations (Matthew 24:14)
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What are your thoughts on points 11, 13 and 22 in particular?

The "forbidding people to marry" (#11, above) and "abstaining from" certain foods (#13, above) probably pertain more to first-century ascetic tendencies, and not directly to our modern-day vegetarianism or our Western society's disregard for marriage.

Point #22 may well be more true today than at any previous time. Even countries that are officially closed to the gospel can go on the Internet and read about Jesus.

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07-26-2010, 05:15 PM
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RE: End Time signs
Well, that same logic Stereophonic can be applied to the Qu'ran, the Bhavagad Gita, the Old Testament, and so many others.

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07-26-2010, 10:06 PM
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RE: End Time signs
Maybe this is a stupid question, but why is increased vegetarianism a sign that the end times are coming? Just wondering, did people ( or God) pick these signs at random or something? Just wondering...
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07-27-2010, 01:08 PM (This post was last modified: 07-27-2010 01:09 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: End Time signs
(07-26-2010 05:15 PM)vociferous Wrote:  Well, that same logic Stereophonic can be applied to the Qu'ran, the Bhavagad Gita, the Old Testament, and so many others.

The part about reading on the Internet is applicable... But what countries today are deliberately sealed off from Islam in the way that many Islamic countries are deliberately and officially sealed off from Christianity?

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07-27-2010, 01:17 PM
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RE: End Time signs
Many Islamic fundamentalist nations. But the wheel just turned; during the Middle Ages and Ottoman Empire, they were considerably more liberal to other religions than the Christian nations.
Then they got insane. Again.

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