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Fair or unfair?
05-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Post: #1
Fair or unfair?
Why is it that God usually blesses the younger brother instead of the elder? We can see that in the story of Jacob and Esau; and Cain and Abel. We also have the parable of the Prodigal son.

What do you think God wants to show us through those stories?
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05-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Post: #2
RE: Fair or unfair?
All these stories have a common thread - you can be an outdated tool (like Abel) or a conniving, lying, polygamist schemer (like Jacob,) but as long as you mindlessly follow God everything will turn out all right.

Standard dogma.
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05-08-2009, 01:47 AM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
Can you post the stories please.
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05-08-2009, 10:36 AM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
No, but you can find them all in Genesis.

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05-08-2009, 11:30 AM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
I'd have to say the idea of fairness from God in nearly any old testament story is comical at best.

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05-08-2009, 12:19 PM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
(05-07-2009 04:10 PM)Judy Wrote:  Why is it that God usually blesses the younger brother instead of the elder? We can see that in the story of Jacob and Esau; and Cain and Abel. We also have the parable of the Prodigal son.

What do you think God wants to show us through those stories?

One point of the stories may be to disabuse us of any idea that God must conform himself to what we consider fair and appropriate behaviour for a deity.
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05-09-2009, 03:56 AM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
Sorry, I cannot read both stories. Do have any link of these stories?

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05-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Post: #8
RE: Fair or unfair?
There's all sorts of online Bibles. The one I tend to use is the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, but you can just do a search to find others.
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05-28-2009, 04:45 PM (This post was last modified: 05-28-2009 05:06 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: Fair or unfair?
(05-07-2009 04:10 PM)Judy Wrote:  Why is it that God usually blesses the younger brother instead of the elder? We can see that in the story of Jacob and Esau; and Cain and Abel. We also have the parable of the Prodigal son.

What do you think God wants to show us through those stories?

That's a good question, and there's probably a different set of answers for each of the examples you gave.

In the case of Cain, God said to him, "...'Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must rule over it.'" It seems that in this case, Cain's offering was not accepted because Cain himself had some "sin issues" that God wanted him to deal with.

In the case of Jacob and Esau, it seems to be a case of God demonstrating his sovereign right to make choices that run counter to our typical human way of doing things.

In the case of the prodigal son, I think the elder brother represents the Jewish leaders of the day, and the younger brother represents those "sinners" (prostitutes, tax collectors, drunkards, etc) whom the Jewish leaders despised. The point of the parable is that we should not begrudge God's decision to welcome back sinners who repent--even those whose sins seem very offensive to our "high-minded" religious sensibilities.
(05-09-2009 03:56 AM)sympathy07 Wrote:  Sorry, I cannot read both stories. Do have any link of these stories?

You can read the Bible at:

http://www.netbible.com

http://www.biblegateway.com

http://www.biblicaltraining.org/ --- http://www.ntwrightpage.com/
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06-02-2009, 02:33 PM
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RE: Fair or unfair?
God's sovereign right to make choices that run counter to our typical human way of doing things?

Why don't be more honest with it? Why not say, "No reason, God just supported the lying, scheming, conniving jerk for some strange reason."

Or, more likely, Jacob was a lying, scheming, conniving jerk, so he did it all himself without God's help. Because the lying schemers do tend to con the gullible with astonishing regularity.
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