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God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
02-28-2010, 12:47 AM
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God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
The Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary
The Glorious Qur’an speaks highly of Jesus, on whom be peace, and reports nothing negative about him. Take, for instance the following quotation from the Glorious Qur’an where Allah says:

“O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say anything concerning Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers . . . “ (Qur’an 4:171; see also 66:12).

In the above passage Jesus in called by four noble titles. He is the Messiah, the Messenger of Allah, a Word from Allah, and a Spirit from Allah. In the same passage, it is clear that the Qur’an seeks to discourage exaggeration in religion. Further in the same passage, Allah says:

“Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender” (Qur’an 4:171).

Refusing to call Jesus son of God is not done with a view to belittle Jesus. No! On the contrary, it is done to Glorify God, to magnify His name, and to proclaim His transcendent majesty.

The Qur’an confirms that Jesus was born of a virgin. When the angel announced to Mary, on whom be peace, that she will bear a child, she said:

“My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?

She received the following reply:

“So (it will be). Allah creates what He will. If He decrees a thing, He says unto it only: Be! and it is. (Qur’an 3: 45, 47).

In another surah, after relating the incidents surrounding the birth of the Messiah, the Qur’an concludes as follows:

“It befits not (the majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When he decrees a thing, He says unto it only: Be! and it is. (Qur’an 19:35).

The Qur’an seeks to correct a common misconception in the minds of people. Many assume that since Jesus had no father then God must be his father.

Glory be to Allah. He does not father children. He created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But He created Adam from neither a man nor a woman. And a man, but not from a woman. Then, as if to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman but not from a man. God has demonstrated His power to create in every way.

Allah says:

“Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then he said unto him: Be! and he is” (3:59).

It is important to realise that Jesus, on whom be peace, never taught that he is the Son of God. Allah says that those who call Jesus ‘Son of God’ are following the saying of other people (see surah 9:30). Jesus taught only what he was commanded (5:117). He himself was quite pleased with being a servant of Allah (4:172). As a messenger of Allah, Jesus knew that none in the heavens or the earth can approach Allah except as a slave (19:93).

Finally, those who say that God has a son should know that they have no warrant for this, but they are saying something without knowledge (10:68).

In the next part, God willing, we will see from a careful study of the Bible that Jesus never called himself God’s son.
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02-28-2010, 09:20 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
(02-28-2010 12:47 AM)mobkem Wrote:  The Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary
The Glorious Qur’an speaks highly of Jesus, on whom be peace, and reports nothing negative about him. Take, for instance the following quotation from the Glorious Qur’an where Allah says:

“O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say anything concerning Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers . . . “ (Qur’an 4:171; see also 66:12).

In the above passage Jesus in called by four noble titles. He is the Messiah, the Messenger of Allah, a Word from Allah, and a Spirit from Allah. In the same passage, it is clear that the Qur’an seeks to discourage exaggeration in religion. Further in the same passage, Allah says:

“Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender” (Qur’an 4:171).

Refusing to call Jesus son of God is not done with a view to belittle Jesus. No! On the contrary, it is done to Glorify God, to magnify His name, and to proclaim His transcendent majesty.

The Qur’an confirms that Jesus was born of a virgin. When the angel announced to Mary, on whom be peace, that she will bear a child, she said:

“My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?

She received the following reply:

“So (it will be). Allah creates what He will. If He decrees a thing, He says unto it only: Be! and it is. (Qur’an 3: 45, 47).

In another surah, after relating the incidents surrounding the birth of the Messiah, the Qur’an concludes as follows:

“It befits not (the majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When he decrees a thing, He says unto it only: Be! and it is. (Qur’an 19:35).

The Qur’an seeks to correct a common misconception in the minds of people. Many assume that since Jesus had no father then God must be his father.

Glory be to Allah. He does not father children. He created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But He created Adam from neither a man nor a woman. And a man, but not from a woman. Then, as if to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman but not from a man. God has demonstrated His power to create in every way.

Allah says:

“Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then he said unto him: Be! and he is” (3:59).

It is important to realise that Jesus, on whom be peace, never taught that he is the Son of God. Allah says that those who call Jesus ‘Son of God’ are following the saying of other people (see surah 9:30). Jesus taught only what he was commanded (5:117). He himself was quite pleased with being a servant of Allah (4:172). As a messenger of Allah, Jesus knew that none in the heavens or the earth can approach Allah except as a slave (19:93).

Finally, those who say that God has a son should know that they have no warrant for this, but they are saying something without knowledge (10:68).

In the next part, God willing, we will see from a careful study of the Bible that Jesus never called himself God’s son.

How can you Muslims say 'God has no son' or 'God is without partners' when your Quran says God impregnated Mary to bear 'Jesus,...a likeness of Adam'? This is still the pagan gods come to earth to impregnate human females idea and it makes God a Father of a Son as well. No human man fathered Jesus according to the Quran so it is a great contradiction for Muslims to claim God has no partners. Both Mary and Jesus must be considered partners with God in creating Jesus as another Adam, i.e. a miraculous human being created in the ancient pagan manner.
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03-01-2010, 01:12 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
Quran is meant by saying that Jesus is like Adam
That is not a god or son of god, but it's humans in everything and does not have a divine recipes
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03-01-2010, 01:34 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
(03-01-2010 01:12 AM)mobkem Wrote:  Quran is meant by saying that Jesus is like Adam
That is not a god or son of god, but it's humans in everything and does not have a divine recipes

You don't think being created by God without a human father "does not have a divine recipes"?

Show us the human being created without a father. I'm sorry but the Quran's double standard in wanting to dethrown Jesus as the Son of God yet keeping his divine origin intact is another major contradiction in Muhammad's Islam.
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03-02-2010, 12:39 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
Jesus did not say he is a god
Is God unable to free people from their sins and instead sites include sends his son or himself to strike by humans and says that this god
You must cancel your mind to believe this
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03-02-2010, 03:26 PM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
(03-02-2010 12:39 AM)mobkem Wrote:  Jesus did not say he is a god
Is God unable to free people from their sins and instead sites include sends his son or himself to strike by humans and says that this god
You must cancel your mind to believe this

Our God works in mysterious ways unlike Allah who seems to think identically with an Arab man's mind.
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08-07-2012, 02:57 PM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
Biomystic, I don't think u read that excerpt properly. Its quite clear and easy to understand, yet u bringing about doubts. Jesus is not the son of God, and can never be
That's what he has tried to explain here.
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08-08-2012, 06:29 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
(03-02-2010 03:26 PM)biomystic Wrote:  
(03-02-2010 12:39 AM)mobkem Wrote:  Jesus did not say he is a god
Is God unable to free people from their sins and instead sites include sends his son or himself to strike by humans and says that this god
You must cancel your mind to believe this

Our God works in mysterious ways unlike Allah who seems to think identically with an Arab man's mind.

every God from every religions work in the mysterious way......
Your reason is full of crap.........
I wanna ask one thing??
Why do you have to call your God father??(i already know the answer, but i need to hear it from you),,
and secondly, do you really think that all the muslim people(from alqur'an) like prophet is arabic???? your way of thinking is confusing....
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08-08-2012, 06:41 AM (This post was last modified: 08-08-2012 06:43 AM by Fender.)
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
(08-07-2012 02:57 PM)mojo Wrote:  Biomystic, ......

I don't think Biomystic will respond, since he/she hasn't visited this site since last year, mobken hasn't been here in 2 years, and the fact that this thread is over 2 years old.
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06-29-2014, 08:35 AM
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RE: God begets not, nor is he begotten (Qur'an, 112:3) part2
He has answered you, politely, but your response was to insult him and use a racial remark. I am not a Muslim but I understand clearly what he says. Allah is the Arabic word for God, just like in Spanish we use Dios for God. Arab Christians use the word Allah for God also. A Bible in Arabic uses the exact spelling as it is in the Qur'an.
Adam was created without father or mother, yet no one claims he is also divine....
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