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History Book Favors Islam
08-15-2013, 06:18 AM
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History Book Favors Islam
In this article, critics of a history book are claiming that the book is favoring Islam. The sad part about this article, is there is no proof of the issue. There is nothing in the article like an example of what the complaints are about. However, with this lack of reporting, the comments on facebook are saddening. I saw people post things like, "burn the book when your kids bring it home," and others like "That's why my kids are home schooled."

I mean there was nasty comment after nasty comment. Which in my area, I expected, except, it is all based on opinion. As I said above, there is nothing in the article to show what the issue about. The article just lets you know that someone found issue with it.

The other issue to discuss, would be with some of the other comments. "Religion should not be taught in school." This is all from a history book. How exactly do you teach history, without teaching about the influence of religion? Thoughts?

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08-15-2013, 03:43 PM
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Meanwhile, somewhere, out in Belarus, there's textbooks favoring the Eastern Orthodox Church, and opposing the more-modern American-based Christian denominations by comparing Baptists, Adventists, and Pentecostals to Aum Shinrikyo as cults made up of "dangerous fanatics".

I think it's very important to teach religion if you teach history, and I think taking religious studies out of academic learning is like establishing anti-religion rather than secularism in schools. Taking an anti-religious stance is not taking a neutral stance on religion, and it seems to me like it doesn't really flesh out the true meaning of "separation of church and state". You can be secular while still explaining religion in a historical context, and things are fine when done that way.

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08-15-2013, 05:14 PM
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I think it is possible to teach about religion, and its influence on our history, without actually teaching the religion itself. I am very interested in seeing what is in this history book though, that raised any questions. Religion, needs to be taught, if you are teaching history. There is no doubt that religion has played a role in the world.

I think what really irritated me about this article, was more the comments that came with it. I mean the article itself, just did not seem to really have much news in it. The whole article could have said....

Someone thinks history book in Brevard County is showing favoritism towards Islam. Officials are looking into it."

That is basically the whole story. From that, people are claiming the book should be burned. I have seen people blaming Obama. I guess one Florida County at a time. I mean to see such hateful comments from people, whom really have no idea what is going on, since the article does not really say anything. It makes me curious if the new channel did that on purpose.

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08-15-2013, 09:18 PM
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(08-15-2013 06:18 AM)EqualAtheist Wrote:  In this article, critics of a history book are claiming that the book is favoring Islam. The sad part about this article, is there is no proof of the issue. There is nothing in the article like an example of what the complaints are about. However, with this lack of reporting, the comments on facebook are saddening. I saw people post things like, "burn the book when your kids bring it home," and others like "That's why my kids are home schooled."

I mean there was nasty comment after nasty comment. Which in my area, I expected, except, it is all based on opinion. As I said above, there is nothing in the article to show what the issue about. The article just lets you know that someone found issue with it.

The other issue to discuss, would be with some of the other comments. "Religion should not be taught in school." This is all from a history book. How exactly do you teach history, without teaching about the influence of religion? Thoughts?

I'm going to try to do a bit of digging into this. It's annoying that it's not possible to actually see the alleged controversy in context. News organizations should be able to post excerpts even without explicit permission from the textbook publisher under fair use. Though I suspect there might be some fear of copyright litigation or even just plain *dong more paperwork* is a deterrent.


Without knowing the specifics I'd suspect Islam is probably being given more airtime in the book than Christianity and Judiasm as World History texts at the highschool level are likely assuming the students already have a prior background in American History and Christian/Jewish religion.

Brutalities of things issues like Slavery (both in the West and the Islamic world) and brutalities in wars etc. are likely, to put it mildly, being downplayed.
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08-16-2013, 12:00 AM
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Back In high school about 7 years ago in a history class they started teaching us about Capitalism and Socialism and that's when I realized I identified as a Socialist.
My grandpa still thinks to this day I was brain washed by my teachers. LoL
But they didn't teach us a biased opinion either way. My grandpa is a hard core right winger, he's racist too. I also learned about different religions in art and history classes.

I think it is sick to try and control what a child grows up to believe.
If I ever have children I will present them with the basic ideas behind different beliefs and let them decide for themselves what to believe.

I think children should be educated about world religions because they are an important part of most cultures.
Understanding other cultures might do Americans some good.

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08-16-2013, 02:00 AM
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I had a discussion with a friend through chat (on Steam) about religion and history and we discussed Manichaeism.

Manichaeism was a world religion at one point. But despite that, high school history books teach absolutely nothing about it. We both found that weird. We both sort of wished that it could be better-known by the world through academic learning, because today there's actually very few people who realize what Manichaeism even is.

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08-16-2013, 09:25 AM
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It would be interesting, though not the least bit surprising, if the context of the book was about the middle to late medieval Islamic world, into the modern era, and comparing the general merits of the period to the same time in Europe, which is not "showing Islam in a favourable light" but "discussing the reality of the past".

Cultures dominated by Islam had an expansionist period in which their culture and military power outstripped Europe? Blasphemy!

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08-16-2013, 07:19 PM
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Not to mention their amazing scientific advances and philosophical developments!

The Europeans of the Renaissance certainly held the Medieval Muslims in high regard. I mean, they cited them, referenced them, built upon their works. The West owes much of their understanding and development to the Middle East. Celebrating that is not favoring one religion above another.

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08-16-2013, 08:03 PM
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no proof Smile
this is your problem ... people close their minds when they like
ignore real proofs ... and believe fake proofs when they like ...
you can do none when the truth is clear ... but they are afraid to look straight ...
but one good thing ... if they once decide to look they can see...
"" How exactly do you teach history, without teaching about the influence of religion? Thoughts?""
you can't
so that in Lebanon , each school learn Lebanese history ... in a different way
education ministry their can't unite their history or they will make eternal war Smile
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08-19-2013, 05:54 PM
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