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Human society.
08-05-2011, 09:44 PM
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Human society.
Do humans need religion to survive as a society?

Has religion brought Humanity together or has it tore us apart?

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08-05-2011, 09:56 PM (This post was last modified: 08-05-2011 09:56 PM by StarStuff.)
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RE: Human society.
I think that, in the early stages of the development of human society, religion was beneficial. It aided tribes in being more cohesive, it united people under a common banner, it gave people a sense of belonging and purpose within their tribes. It also served as a way of teaching lessons, particularly about things of which we had not yet developed a strong understanding (ie don't go to the top of that mountain, because it will make the volcano gods angry and they'll kill you).

But we've outgrown our need for it, and I believe religion in modern society is destructive far more often than it is beneficial.

I've heard religion described as the training wheels of civilization, and I think that is a very accurate comparison.

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08-06-2011, 03:18 AM
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RE: Human society.
Unite a tribe only to war against another with different belief?

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08-06-2011, 03:27 AM
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RE: Human society.
If anyone thinks that religion is going away anytime soon, look to the Chinese Communist Party!

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08-06-2011, 03:48 AM
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RE: Human society.
(08-05-2011 09:44 PM)MRlogic Wrote:  Do humans need religion to survive as a society?

Has religion brought Humanity together or has it tore us apart?
I think the problem is not so much religion as the fact that we do not control our base instincts so well, like greed, lust and selfishness. Religion can be a force to counter this, and depending on your definition Capitalism or Communism or even Democracy could be called religions. I would say we need some binding concepts, but something like the Genevan conventions would be an ok start. In the light of eternity I think human society will perish eventually, by the way.

It has done both. There have been wars on the basis of religion and there have been more agreements on what is just and right because of religion.

But as I've said to you before, I think you need to learn to clarify why you ask these questions and what your viewpoint is. What is your goal? Do you want to prove that religion is bad? And that it would be better for humanity to give it up?
What is your definition of society?

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08-06-2011, 07:23 AM
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RE: Human society.
(08-06-2011 03:18 AM)MRlogic Wrote:  Unite a tribe only to war against another with different belief?

This only becomes an issue when there are enough humans for tribes to come in close contact.

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08-06-2011, 02:41 PM
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RE: Human society.
(08-05-2011 09:44 PM)MRlogic Wrote:  Do humans need religion to survive as a society?

No, I do not think it is needed to survive

(08-05-2011 09:44 PM)MRlogic Wrote:  Has religion brought Humanity together or has it tore us apart?

It has done and is still doing both.

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08-06-2011, 06:03 PM
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RE: Human society.
Simple answer.

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08-07-2011, 05:05 AM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2011 05:06 AM by Painkiller.)
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RE: Human society.
(08-06-2011 02:41 PM)EqualAtheist Wrote:  
(08-05-2011 09:44 PM)MRlogic Wrote:  Has religion brought Humanity together or has it tore us apart?

It has done and is still doing both.

Great answer, Equal, I think this is spot on. Furthermore, though, I'd also add that in both cases it's people who are doing the bringing and the tearing, and that Religion is simply one of many tools/inspirations/excuses we use to do it.

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08-07-2011, 06:23 AM
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RE: Human society.
IMO Religion is just another cultural evolving trend that we can live with or without. Some do, some don't. Whatever.
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