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Scientific Signs of Qur'an & Sunnah (Properties of Deep Seas)
06-21-2008, 05:34 PM (This post was last modified: 06-21-2008 05:36 PM by makan.)
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Scientific Signs of Qur'an & Sunnah (Properties of Deep Seas)
Properties of Deep Seas

Allah, the Almighty, said: [Or (the unbelievers' state) is like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. If he puts out his hand, he can scarcely see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light.] (An-Nur:40)

The Scientific Fact:

The Encyclopedia Britannica states that oceans and deep seas are mostly covered by thick cumulus clouds, which hinder a large amount of sun light, as shown in satellite pictures. These clouds reflect most sunrays and prevent some of its light; water reflects some of the light that comes to earth and absorbs the rest that gradually decreases with depth. Thus, levels of darkness in the water in a depth of 200 meters are created and darkness reaches its peak below a depth of 1000 meters; no light can be seen at all. The Secchi disk was the first piece of equipment for measuring light in deep oceans.

Scientists discovered kinds of fish in (600-2700 meters) deep water that use luminous organs to enable them to see in the dark so as to catch their prey.

Modern marine sciences, at the end of the 19th century, discovered, after using developed pictorial equipment, internal rough waves in deep seas. These waves are located in the surface separating every two layers of water and are different in density, pressure, heat, and ebb and flow.

Scientists have recently discovered that there are internal waves that occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities. These internal waves cover the deep waters of seas and oceans because deep water has a higher density than the water above it. Internal waves act like surface waves. They can break, just like surface waves. Internal waves cannot be seen with the naked eye.

The exhausted energy used in the process of generating these waves equals the energy of sailing a ship; therefore, many ships in this area suddenly lose control because of stagnant water that was first discovered by the Swedish professor V. W. Ekman in the beginning of the 20th century.

Facets of Scientific Inimitability:

Previously, mankind believed in superstition concerning deep seas and oceans and there was not enough scientific information about the reality of the depth of water and water currents. Although they knew that wind currents affect surface waves, they had no knowledge about internal waves.

This honorable verse referred to the darkness inside deep seas by using the expression (fathomless sea) and mentioned that the darkness in these seas consists of layers. The interpreter of the Ever-Glorious Qur'an stated that the layers of darkness mentioned in this verse are the darkness of clouds, the waves, and the sea; one can see nothing in these layers.

Dense clouds that cover the seas reflect some of the sun's light and the surface of the sea reflects some others and then the water absorbs almost all the seven colors of the light spectrum, one after another. Afterwards, internal waves turn the bottom into complete darkness, where there is no light at all; to the extent that one cannot see one's own hand.

In addition, the statement in the verse "…like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds…" draws our attention to another miracle of how the Ever-Glorious Qur’an accurately describes the sea.

Fish in these depths have no eyes; they have luminous organs in their bodies to enable them to see in the darkness, as He (Exalted and Glorified be He) says, "Those God gives no light to, they have no light."

The honorable verse also indicates the internal waves in the area between two layers of water of different density. This scientific fact that was declared in the verse fourteen centuries ago has recently been discovered by scientists.

Then who told Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) this but the All-Aware, the Most High?
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06-30-2008, 02:28 PM
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RE: Scientific Signs of Qur'an & Sunnah (Properties of Deep Seas)
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep Seas

Allah, the Almighty, said: [Or (the unbelievers' state) is like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. If he puts out his hand, he can scarcely see it. Those God gives no light to, they have no light.] (An-Nur:40)
wow! your god thinks there are clouds in the oceans??
if the oceans have a floor that is measureable can you still call it "fathomless"?

The Scientific Fact:
really...
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep SeasThe Encyclopedia Britannica states that oceans and deep seas are mostly covered by thick cumulus clouds, which hinder a large amount of sun light, as shown in satellite pictures.
no it doesnt. the only sites that make this claim are islamic sites that regurgitate the same thing over and over. its dishonest and expresses a lack of education on the copy and pasters part (thats you makan).
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep SeasThese clouds reflect most sunrays and prevent some of its light; water reflects some of the light that comes to earth and absorbs the rest that gradually decreases with depth. Thus, levels of darkness in the water in a depth of 200 meters are created and darkness reaches its peak below a depth of 1000 meters; no light can be seen at all. The Secchi disk was the first piece of equipment for measuring light in deep oceans.
since there are no clouds in the ocean, oceanographers explain light reflection and absorbion a little differently than your holy book..or where ever you copied your information.
"The solar radiation coming to earth is remarkably consistent, averaging about 2.0 cal/cm2/min. (the solar constant!). However, this is the energy that would fall on a disk held perpendicular to the sun's rays without any consideration of atmospheric reduction or the fact that the energy must be spread over a spherical earth. The radiation that actually makes it to the surface of the earth is much less, averaging about 10-20% of the solar constant. Because radiation does not reach all latitudes equally, atmospheric winds and ocean currents must transport heat from the lower latitudes to the higher to maintain a heat balance over the hemisphere."

makan Wrote:Properties of Deep SeasScientists discovered kinds of fish in (600-2700 meters) deep water that use luminous organs to enable them to see in the dark so as to catch their prey....
glowing fish and ocean currents? this has nothing to do with your gods comment.

makan Wrote:Properties of Deep SeasFacets of Scientific Inimitability:

Previously, mankind believed in superstition concerning deep seas and oceans and there was not enough scientific information about the reality of the depth of water and water currents.
they also believed there were supernatural creatures that send "messengers" with books to tell people how to act. we know better today...well some people do.
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep Seas
This honorable verse referred to the darkness inside deep seas by using the expression (fathomless sea)
which it is not.
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep Seas
and mentioned that the darkness in these seas consists of layers.
which it does not have
The interpreter of the Ever-Glorious Qur'an stated that the layers of darkness mentioned in this verse are the darkness of clouds, the waves, and the sea; one can see nothing in these layers.
except there are no clouds in the ocean.
makan Wrote:Properties of Deep Seas
Dense clouds that cover the seas reflect some of the sun's light and the surface of the sea reflects some others and then the water absorbs almost all the seven colors of the light spectrum, one after another. Afterwards, internal waves turn the bottom into complete darkness, where there is no light at all; to the extent that one cannot see one's own hand.
can you explain how waves turn the bottom dark?

there are only 6 colors in the spectrum.
Color Wavelength
Red 780 to 622 nm
Orange 622 to 597 nm
Yellow 597 to 577 nm
Green 577 to 492 nm
Blue 492 to 455 nm
Violet 455 to 390 nm

(Wavelengths of light are expressed in units of nanometers.
Please note: 1 nm (nanometer) = 10-9 m)

In addition, the statement in the verse "…like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds…" draws our attention to another miracle of how the accurately describes the sea.
since the quran is WRONG about these things, can you still call it "Ever-Glorious"?

"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."

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