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State Laws are sent by Zolt (deism)
09-03-2009, 03:02 PM
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State Laws are sent by Zolt (deism)
Greetings and welcome law obeyers! Angelic
May zolt guide and bless you.

onwards with inportant matters, the thread interested me as all laws are sent by the divine.
There for there is no conflict between a nation's law and the will of God ~(at least not with the will of Zolt the law-giver anyway).

If religion and social order are interconnected, and they are, then social order and religion are connected!

such is ordered and enlightened. Praise


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09-03-2009, 04:25 PM
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RE: State Laws are sent by Zolt (deism)
So okay, I've read the posts on the forum up to this point that you've made (and there's a lot more to go,) and I'm pretty sure you're fake. Which is fine. I pretend to be Bokononist all the time, for laughs.

But I don't think you quite understand what "deism" means. You use it a lot in your posts, but you seem to think it applies to "Zolt" even though he clearly does affect the world, expression his will through national law. An actual deist doesn't believe god affects the world one way or another. It just sort of created the thing and then let it go.

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09-03-2009, 11:58 PM
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RE: State Laws are sent by Zolt (deism)
(09-03-2009 04:25 PM)GTseng3 Wrote:  But I don't think you quite understand what "deism" means. You use it a lot in your posts, but you seem to think it applies to "Zolt" even though he clearly does affect the world, expression his will through national law. An actual deist doesn't believe god affects the world one way or another. It just sort of created the thing and then let it go.

you are refering to Prime Observor deism rather than zolt's heretical Prime Mover deism. So I dont think you quite understand what "deism" means (neither do many deists). some deists do not believe in divine intervention; this excludes Zolt. They are the traditionalist deist cult which has been found deficent in its good as dead god, hijacked by by academic free-thinkers and turned irrelivant to human life.

a few thoughts that challenge the traditional deist views:

1 the preloaded easter egg hunt. you are taken there (reason~) to find what was put there ~(creation). your god might not know what would unfold and when (you eat the easter egg this day) but Zolt sure did.
That is a critique of the traditional hands off deism. good as unfolding divine intervention.
2 even more so, the presumption of (some) deists that the divine created and gave humans reason and let it unfold and yet has no interest in helping or his creatures affairs is stand offish to the extreme. It doesnt sound likely, and more problamatically, humans prefer and maybe need divine intervention!
your god might not have designed humans to be like that but...Zolt did.
So is your deist god evil then?
3 the overlooking by deists of human society and law as imminant relevence to human affairs. why only though nature and theoretical science myths like darwinism the piltdown hoax? why not also though human society and its regualtion... even more affecting humans, as some gods knew would be the case. The nature treck is fine but thats where most deists' god stays put.
until we meet again god?

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09-08-2009, 09:57 AM
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What do you mean by "Darwinism"? I am unfamiliar with such a religion. Do you mean "evolution"?

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09-10-2009, 08:20 AM
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(09-08-2009 09:57 AM)GTseng3 Wrote:  What do you mean by "Darwinism"? I am unfamiliar with such a religion. Do you mean "evolution"?

Is that Pentcostal evolution or Dutch Reformed?
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09-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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RE: State Laws are sent by Zolt (deism)
Pentecostal. We evolve with the spirit.

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