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The Great Global Misunderstanding of Communism
07-06-2017, 10:04 PM (This post was last modified: 07-06-2017 10:10 PM by ivysunday.)
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The Great Global Misunderstanding of Communism
The Great Global Misunderstanding of Communism

Xuefeng

(Translated by Treasure and Edited by Kaer)

Western society regards communism as an evil beast, while oriental society misunderstands communism as sharing property and people, but a true a communist society is actually a utopia, the Great Harmony, and a nickname of the Kingdom of the Greatest Creator.

This misunderstanding was rooted in the wrongdoing of global communist parties from the birth of Marxism. The mistakes of the whole communist international and the failure of really understanding the essence of communism by Lenin and Mao led to highly flawed executions. Communist society is the most humane, which should be realized by its lack of pain to any individual from the starting point. Real communism cannot be illustrated by the dictatorship of the proletariat or the theory of class warfare and does not support “power from the barrel of a gun”.

The Second Home of Lifechanyuan is a real communist society. We never apply dictatorship or the theory of class struggle, nor share possessions or partners, not even to deprive capitalists of their property. It was voluntarily built up by all the members, by moistening the honey and the dew of silent love. This fact speaks louder than words. Its illustration is the best touchstone.

Communism is not an evil beast, but a real paradise in the mortal world. Just to look up the history and life mode of the second home and you will understand real communism.
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07-06-2017, 10:11 PM
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Quote:but a true a communist society is actually a utopia

Please give us an example of a "true communist society" so we can examine and judge it.

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07-06-2017, 11:21 PM
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Everyone is the same with no society levels. Wealth is taken from the rich and given to the poor so everyone is the same.

This is not ideal, human nature doesn't accept it. If I work harder than Jim, I expect myself to be well off than him.

Communism doesn't go with human nature

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07-07-2017, 12:07 AM
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yeah i find it irritating how polarized the term communism has become..

"Communism; a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs."

I certainly do agree with the idea of taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor, mostly because above the point where you can afford to live without fear of starvation etc, money does not make people happier, so it just seems like a bad idea to have some people monstrously rich, while others starve to death. the world needs more communism, not pure communism, but more of it.
Giving monetary incentives for good work is a great thing, we should totally start giving fair monetary rewards for work... generally people want to take money from the rich, because they didn't earn it, they didn't do the 100 times as much work to earn the 100 times as much money, they didn't contribute to society 100 times as much as other people, normally they contributed to the personal wealth of one particular person to earn that reward...
the whole point of communism is to put the ownership in everyone hands so that we can all decide together who gets what, instead of the few people who own everything deciding who gets what (they get everything generally)


the idea of a communistic society where everyone gets the same food rations, does the same amount of work, lives in the same box house, etc. is a ridiculous notion, and not one that anyone ever means when they support communism.

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07-07-2017, 12:14 AM
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Communism eliminates the incentive to work harder, and instead rewards shady dealing.

I am all for more socialism... but communism? No, it's a severely flawed ideology.

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07-07-2017, 12:15 AM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2017 12:17 AM by PeterPants.)
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communism is not the idea that everyone gets the same amount of money and stuff... at all.. it just isn't.
You seem to be criticizing an idea that no one is suggesting..

And it certainly does not support shady dealings. perhaps you mean it leads to them, based on your mistaken idea that communism means no one has any incentives to work.
Universal basic income, that would be a deterent from working, one that in my opinion would be great. i dont think we should all be working all the time, what the heck are we rushing towards exactly?

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07-07-2017, 12:25 AM
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(07-07-2017 12:15 AM)PeterPants Wrote:  communism is not the idea that everyone gets the same amount of money and stuff... at all.. it just isn't.
You seem to be criticizing an idea that no one is suggesting..

And it certainly does not support shady dealings. perhaps you mean it leads to them, based on your mistaken idea that communism means no one has any incentives to work

It might not be. But that was how it is practice when applied by people

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07-07-2017, 12:28 AM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2017 12:36 AM by PeterPants.)
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No... No it was not. People still got payed more or less based on what they did. Communism has failed so far because it breeds totalitarianism. New tech like the internet would help many issues. But of course communism as a thing on its own is insufficient, as is pure democracy ir pure free market values.

Manipulation and corruption are always the issue. What we need is a more tech driven system. To improve personal responsability of those who make the decisions. They have to be accountable.
Social media can be a cure for the 'big society' problem. The issue is that people doing bad things, if caught, can just move on. Small societies dont have this problem, bad actors are more likely to be known to everyone. Social media can make it like that again, in fact it already is. People get caught out all the time on facebook. Calling in sick to work and then posting a pic from the beech Tongue. Etc

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07-07-2017, 12:35 AM
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(07-07-2017 12:15 AM)PeterPants Wrote:  communism is not the idea that everyone gets the same amount of money and stuff... at all.. it just isn't.
You seem to be criticizing an idea that no one is suggesting..

Not at all... people can't own property. Ownership of property is fundamental to our society.

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07-07-2017, 12:37 AM
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Well the whole idea is to change society.. So i dont see the problem.But hey. Im not actually advocating a communistic society...

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