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The Idea of Saints in Christianity
01-24-2010, 04:58 AM (This post was last modified: 01-24-2010 05:01 AM by minus459.)
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The Idea of Saints in Christianity
This is a reasonably "topical" question given the publicity recently regarding the Catholic Pope and the movement of certain deceased individuals up the ladder towards canonisation or being declared a saint.
Do other branches of Christianity recognise "saints" and upon what are these "beliefs" based? I will start the conversation, with your indulgence, by mentioning some comments reported in our local papers, puportedly from Anglican (I think episcopalian in US) stating that the bible calls all believers "saints" and yet they have their own "saints". Not that I can name any more than St George right now. My impression was that the Anglicans were unimpressed by the papal topic and were basically putting down the Catholics.
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01-26-2010, 07:06 AM
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RE: The Idea of Saints in Christianity
Saints kind of make Roman Catholicism look like a polytheistic cult now, doesn't it? They actually sold monotheism in a sugar coated polytheistic package. Brilliant I say, brilliant.

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01-26-2010, 11:55 AM (This post was last modified: 01-26-2010 11:56 AM by Parousia.)
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RE: The Idea of Saints in Christianity
(01-26-2010 07:06 AM)blazearmstrong Wrote:  Saints kind of make Roman Catholicism look like a polytheistic cult now, doesn't it? They actually sold monotheism in a sugar coated polytheistic package. Brilliant I say, brilliant.

The core of the idea goes way back into the origins of the Bible. The Yahweh tradition has a personal God who talks to people, feel sadness, closes the door of the Ark, smells the smoke of sacrifices and so on. The God of the Elohim tradition is more remote and less human. The Priestly tradition has a God so remote that he is only accesible by priests in the Jerusalem Temple.

Catholicism has it both ways. The God of Aquinas the theologian is quite abstract and remote. Priests are needed to access the power of this God, as in most of the sacraments. But anyone can pray to God. However praying to such a remote God might not be very satisfying. Talking to someone who understands your situation might be more comfortable. Jesus still too remote in time and culture or still too high up the hierarchy to be really open with? There are lots of other choices. What are your needs and preferences?

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01-26-2010, 12:17 PM
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RE: The Idea of Saints in Christianity
In Bill Mahers Religuolous a catholic priest at the vatican said that a poll of Italians when asked who they prayed to for help brought Jesus in at number 6.
now that's funny. (to me)
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