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The Only Bond That Matters
06-08-2017, 12:54 PM
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The Only Bond That Matters
In a movie, two actors acted as mother and son. In another movie, the same two actors acted as wife and husband. In reality, the two actors are totally unrelated; they are neither mother-son nor are they wife-husband.

Before the movie, the two actors were unrelated, after the movie they are unrelated, only during the movie they temporarily pretend to be related.

That which does not exist before and after the shooting of the movie does not exist even during the time of the shooting.

The mother-son and wife-husband relationships are totally unreal.

In each of the movies, they are only co-actors or co-employees of the same movie producer.

However, the employer-employee relationship between the movie producer and actors remains before the movie, during the movie and after the movie. It is the only real relationship since it is a relationship whose scope is beyond the unreal movie.

Similarly, relationships between souls in this world are unreal, because these relationships did not exist in the previous birth and will not exist in future births. Therefore, they are both temporary and unreal.

The only permanent relation that a soul has is that with God, the Producer of this Cosmic Cinema. This relation is permanent and real. It was there in the past, it is there in the present and will remain in the future. 

When a person dies here on earth, his soul with its subtle body (past impressions and feelings) leaves the gross body. The gross physical body is left here and it disintegrates.

As soon as the soul leaves the body, all relationships in this world are also left behind. The soul retains no memory of who his parents, spouse or children were in the past birth. However, the bond with God remains.

Our attachment to worldly relationships is foolish.
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06-08-2017, 11:06 PM
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RE: The Only Bond That Matters
Our attachment to worldly relationships is real. Your primary example of the actors is flawed in that they're acting; other such relationships are not. What's more is that our relationships with one another are evident - relationships with gods are either not evident, or they are such that there is no real mutual benefit from the relationship itself.

Your example also does not include such beliefs as "soul mates," or the souls of lovers finding each other in each life. These manner of beliefs completely shatter your example, and you can't really prove that a soul loses all memory. It also doesn't count beliefs that have no inclusion of rebirth or reincarnation.

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06-09-2017, 12:00 AM
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RE: The Only Bond That Matters
1-There is existence
2-Existence is a perfection above which no perfection may be conceived
3-God is perfection and perfection in existence
4-Existence is a singular and simple reality; there is no metaphysical pluralism
5-That singular reality is graded in intensity in a scale of perfection (that is, a denial of a pure monism).
6-That scale must have a limit point, a point of greatest intensity and of greatest existence.
7-Hence God exists.

Yes. Word games are easy... And pointless.

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06-09-2017, 12:53 AM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2017 01:33 AM by Avun Jahei.)
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RE: The Only Bond That Matters
I could throw in the Buddhist perspective that even what you would call "relationship of the soul with God" is not ultimate and thus worldly.
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06-09-2017, 12:59 AM
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RE: The Only Bond That Matters
I love it when people post in remembrance of....

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06-09-2017, 06:48 AM
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(06-09-2017 12:59 AM)Herminator Wrote:  I love it when people post in remembrance of....

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06-09-2017, 06:59 AM
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Guys, live and let die... Best Bond evar!

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06-09-2017, 08:27 AM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2017 08:27 AM by clarence clutterbuck.)
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(06-09-2017 12:59 AM)Herminator Wrote:  I love it when people post in remembrance of....

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06-09-2017, 10:07 AM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2017 10:11 AM by Caesar Saladin.)
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RE: The Only Bond That Matters
(06-08-2017 12:54 PM)dattaseva Wrote:  In a movie, etc.

Our attachment to worldly relationships is foolish.

Are you a) single, b) married, or c) divorced?

If A, and don't want to be single, you might want to keep this to yourself.

If B, and don't want to be divorced, you might want to keep this to yourself.

If C, this explains a lot.




(06-09-2017 06:59 AM)IMtM Wrote:  Guys, live and let die... Best Bond evar!

I'll drink a Vesper to that Big Grin

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06-10-2017, 10:46 PM
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Quote:Similarly, relationships between souls in this world are unreal, because these relationships did not exist in the previous birth and will not exist in future births. Therefore, they are both temporary and unreal.

That's a very sad way to look at relationships between people. I think this type of view causes people to look at their own loved ones as unimportant or even dispensable..... sad.

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