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Translations of the Holy Quran
02-17-2010, 01:21 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2010 01:27 PM by Ahmadi.)
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Translations of the Holy Quran
There may be some interest in finding a translation of the Holy Quran. If you owned one you will be in good company, for the President Thomas Jefferson owned one.

Here is the official site of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, where you could search the translation also:

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/index.php

If anyone would insist on reading a translation by a Christian, then a good possibility is one by A. J. Arberry (Editor):

The Koran Interpreted: A Translation

http://www.amazon.com/Koran-Interpreted-...678&sr=8-1

However, the best one for anyone who grew up in the West, in my opinion, is the one by Sir Muhammad Zafrulla Khan:

http://www.amazon.com/Quran-Revelation-V...845&sr=1-1

You may find it to be your best investment.

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02-17-2010, 02:47 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
For more information, see my thread on the various translations of the Qur'an

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02-17-2010, 03:13 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
"Will they not, then, meditate upon the Qur’an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much disagreement." (Al Quran 4:83)

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02-17-2010, 04:12 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
(02-17-2010 03:13 PM)Ahmadi Wrote:  "Will they not, then, meditate upon the Qur’an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much disagreement." (Al Quran 4:83)

One man's book. One writer vs. how many Old and New Testament writers? Anyone with brains would see that the chances of errors with multiple writers and even more translation errors because of much longer writing period are going to statistically greater. But Muhammad's clones aren't interested in logic.
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02-17-2010, 05:25 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2010 05:28 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
I don't think the ratio of errors to writers or the ratio of errors to word-quantity is even the important matter (though the Qur'an certainly does contain outright errors). The real point is the quality of the content and the depth of intuition regarding the human condition. In this respect, The Qur'an ends up at the bottom of the pile in comparison to the sacred texts of all other major world faiths.

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02-17-2010, 05:33 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
Stereophonic please demonstrate the superiority of Hindu or Buddhist scriptures over the Holy Quran, not only in this thread but feel free to paste in the thread that I started about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and co-related the 30 articles with the teachings of the Holy Quran.

I will salute you if you can make a case for Christian scripture and Vedas and Gita there. Could I be any more fair!

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02-17-2010, 05:41 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
(02-17-2010 05:33 PM)Ahmadi Wrote:  ...please demonstrate the superiority of Hindu or Buddhist scriptures over the Holy Quran...

One of many possible examples from the Qur'an:

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great" (Qur'an 4:34).

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02-17-2010, 05:53 PM
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
The usual rhetoric. The Holy Quran gives a range of strategies, to negotiate through a tough situation and the last of these does not have to be a physical strike, only a metaphorical one.

The Holy Quran presents a metaphor for a very loving, close and romantic paradigm for matrimonial relations. It says:

"They are a garment for you, and you are a garment for them." (2:188)

Readers, please note Stereophonic is just trying to ridicule Islam but has not presented case for Christianity or other religions as regards the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which are absolutely essential in the global village. My thread has been there for more than a month and he should be held responsible for not even attempting to defend Christianity.

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02-17-2010, 06:08 PM
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Cognitive dissonance, anyone? Step right up to the Muslim variety seen daily on these boards as Muslims dodge the hard questions about their own religious beliefs and try to divert attention away from this fact by continuing on as if nothing was posted revealing the errors in their book idol. This is why word idolatry is the last idolatry that must be overcome so that people start thinking for themselves and not be lazy letting ancient others do it for them. God doesn't want spiritual relationship with robots and human tape recorders who cut and paste other men's ideas instead of doing the spiritual heavy lifting for themselves.
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02-17-2010, 08:41 PM (This post was last modified: 02-17-2010 10:10 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: Translations of the Holy Quran
(02-17-2010 05:53 PM)Ahmadi Wrote:  ...The Holy Quran gives a range of strategies...

So is Qur'an 4:34 one of the clear verses, or one of the ambiguous verses? The Qur'an can't seem to make up its own mind whether it is entirely clear or not...

If Qur'an 4:34 is clear, then women are to be beaten, plain and simple. But if it is not clear, then how many Muslim women have been beaten by Muslim husbands who have mistakenly thought the meaning of this passage is clear?

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