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Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
02-19-2010, 11:01 AM
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Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?

Many Christian and Catholics justify the killing of the human population of Noah’s day, including the innocent children and babies as a judgment against an evil population. They were evil children and babies and are to be fodder for hell along with their parents.

I recognize that the genocide of man has been argued forever and believers have no problem with that particular genocide and I do not want to rehash that particular issue. All one need do is recognize that the notion of free will did not exist back then for the population and move on.

Having killed many animals, even by hand, and not being bothered by it, I can tell you that at a certain number, even my hard stomach and heart begins to be upset and I have to take a break from the slaughter of these food animals.

I just cannot find any justification for the slaughter of the earths animal population at the time of Noah. Some say that animals have souls the same as humans but frankly I cannot see God putting souls into what He has said is meat to us.

It cannot be said then that animals are evil because they cannot discern good and evil. Only man and God can do such.

The only reason I can think of for the slaughter and genocide of the animals is then cruelty. God could have easily spared all of them and did not.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Humans aside.
Was God just being cruel to His perfectly created animals or is there some other motivator that I am missing?

No adding to scripture now.

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02-19-2010, 05:59 PM
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RE: Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
(02-19-2010 11:01 AM)Greatest I am Wrote:  Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?

Many Christian and Catholics justify the killing of the human population of Noah’s day, including the innocent children and babies as a judgment against an evil population. They were evil children and babies and are to be fodder for hell along with their parents.

I recognize that the genocide of man has been argued forever and believers have no problem with that particular genocide and I do not want to rehash that particular issue. All one need do is recognize that the notion of free will did not exist back then for the population and move on.

Having killed many animals, even by hand, and not being bothered by it, I can tell you that at a certain number, even my hard stomach and heart begins to be upset and I have to take a break from the slaughter of these food animals.

I just cannot find any justification for the slaughter of the earths animal population at the time of Noah. Some say that animals have souls the same as humans but frankly I cannot see God putting souls into what He has said is meat to us.

It cannot be said then that animals are evil because they cannot discern good and evil. Only man and God can do such.

The only reason I can think of for the slaughter and genocide of the animals is then cruelty. God could have easily spared all of them and did not.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Humans aside.
Was God just being cruel to His perfectly created animals or is there some other motivator that I am missing?

No adding to scripture now.

Regards
DL

Not to worry! It's all make-believe story-telling to scare people into believing in a cruel god. In the original Flood story before Hebrews did their makeover of it, it was Ellil who couldn't stand the noise humankind was making so he caused the Flood. Look at where these people were worshiping and concocting their Flood myth:

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These reed temples were built right on the banks of the Euphrates and as anyone who lives in a flood plain knows, floods can be about the worse thing that can happen to a community. They just expanded and projected their flood fears into a worldwide flood that never occurred.
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02-19-2010, 06:06 PM
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RE: Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
I agree with Biomystic it was not a global flood.

It was a localized flood and not a global flood. Now we know that there are almost 30 million species of animals and plants. Prophet Noah saved only a few mammalian species of human need in the local area. To save all, he would have needed something larger than the largest cruise ship of the present time.

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02-19-2010, 10:30 PM
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RE: Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
(02-19-2010 06:06 PM)Ahmadi Wrote:  I agree with Biomystic it was not a global flood.

It was a localized flood and not a global flood. Now we know that there are almost 30 million species of animals and plants. Prophet Noah saved only a few mammalian species of human need in the local area. To save all, he would have needed something larger than the largest cruise ship of the present time.

Well now. Ahmadi, here is a place you admit Muhammad didn't know what he was talking about. What's that do to your idolization of him and his book? Does it register as a contradiction to you or are you going to carry on with cognitive dissonance disallowing you to see any problem?
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02-20-2010, 01:03 PM
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RE: Was the animal genocide of Noah’s day justified?
Thanks all.

I agree that it is a work of fiction and this is why I wanted to focus on the justification of that genocide.
It was meant more as a tool for teaching morals to foolish Christian literalists who think that the flood was a just punishment for man. Many will stick to that justification but tend to fall apart when talking of the evil animals.

That is impossible.

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