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What does Islam say about Jesus?
02-19-2010, 11:17 AM
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What does Islam say about Jesus?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb86oCR-3...r_embedded

What do you think?

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02-19-2010, 12:15 PM
Post: #2
RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
Here is a summary of how Islam views Jesus, or at least as the author of this Wiki article sees it. (Muslims, is this accurate?)

Quote:In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى‎ `Īsā) is considered a Messenger of God who had been sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl (gospel). The Qur'an, believed by Muslims to be God's final revelation, mentions Jesus 25 times. It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Rab). To aid him in his quest, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven. Islamic traditions narrate that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl (lit. "the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist). Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached for people to adopt the straight path in submission to God's will. Islam rejects that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, stating that he was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawhīd). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Masīḥ ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although it does not correspond with the meaning accrued in Christian belief. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

Here is the alternative view of Ahmadiyya Islam. (Ahmadi, comments?)

Quote:Similar to mainstream Islamic views, the Ahmadiyya Movement consider Jesus was a mortal man, but go a step further to describe Jesus as a mortal man who died a natural death in India - as opposed to having been raised up alive to Heaven.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Ahmadiyya_Islam
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02-19-2010, 12:28 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
To amplify and confirm Parousia's introduction of the views of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, let me introduce a Google knol titled, 'Jesus did not die on the cross.' Here is the link:

http://knol.google.com/k/jesus-did-not-d...the-cross#

I have pledged to the members of our forum not to engage in any debate or arguments for at least a month, to cool the atmosphere of the forum. I think it has worked for the last two days so far. I will be only sharing information.

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02-19-2010, 12:46 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
(02-19-2010 12:15 PM)Parousia Wrote:  Here is a summary of how Islam views Jesus, or at least as the author of this Wiki article sees it. (Muslims, is this accurate?)

Quote:In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى‎ `Īsā) is considered a Messenger of God who had been sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl (gospel). The Qur'an, believed by Muslims to be God's final revelation, mentions Jesus 25 times. It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Rab). To aid him in his quest, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven. Islamic traditions narrate that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl (lit. "the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist). Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached for people to adopt the straight path in submission to God's will. Islam rejects that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, stating that he was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawhīd). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Masīḥ ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although it does not correspond with the meaning accrued in Christian belief. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

Here is the alternative view of Ahmadiyya Islam. (Ahmadi, comments?)

Quote:Similar to mainstream Islamic views, the Ahmadiyya Movement consider Jesus was a mortal man, but go a step further to describe Jesus as a mortal man who died a natural death in India - as opposed to having been raised up alive to Heaven.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Ahmadiyya_Islam

Ahmadis do not represent true Islam
Islam is the majority of Muslims

This is what Islam says about Jesus
http://www.islamhouse.com/d/files/en/ih_..._Islam.pdf

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUVT9UL3BEE
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02-19-2010, 01:12 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
(02-19-2010 12:15 PM)Parousia Wrote:  Here is a summary of how Islam views Jesus, or at least as the author of this Wiki article sees it. (Muslims, is this accurate?)

Quote:In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى‎ `Īsā) is considered a Messenger of God who had been sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl (gospel). The Qur'an, believed by Muslims to be God's final revelation, mentions Jesus 25 times. It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Rab). To aid him in his quest, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven. Islamic traditions narrate that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl (lit. "the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist). Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached for people to adopt the straight path in submission to God's will. Islam rejects that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, stating that he was a mortal man who, like other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing the notion of God's divine oneness (tawhīd). Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Masīḥ ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although it does not correspond with the meaning accrued in Christian belief. Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

Here is the alternative view of Ahmadiyya Islam. (Ahmadi, comments?)

Quote:Similar to mainstream Islamic views, the Ahmadiyya Movement consider Jesus was a mortal man, but go a step further to describe Jesus as a mortal man who died a natural death in India - as opposed to having been raised up alive to Heaven.
...[more]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Ahmadiyya_Islam

Since the post is about Jesus in Islam, You should give your statement about whole Muslim, rather than talking about sects. So please stuck on topic and give your statement if you would like to contribute.
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02-19-2010, 02:25 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
(02-19-2010 01:12 PM)TruthWon Wrote:  Since the post is about Jesus in Islam, You should give your statement about whole Muslim, rather than talking about sects. So please stuck on topic and give your statement if you would like to contribute.

The first quote was about mainstream Islam. The second (short) one was about the Ahmadiyya sect, which is represented on this board.

My contribution was attempting to get a discussion going. I've noticed that videos do not get that much in the way of responses, especially from those people who cannot get to youtube at work, where they are posting. Big Grin

Perhaps you can tell us more about your beliefs with respect to Jesus.
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02-19-2010, 04:22 PM (This post was last modified: 02-19-2010 04:42 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
Unfortunately, Islam has no historical sources at all for Jesus of Nazareth. Living 600 years after Jesus, Mohammad apparently did not have access to any genuine Christian scripture, and even if he had such texts he was illiterate and therefore could not have read them.

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02-19-2010, 05:46 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
(02-19-2010 04:22 PM)Stereophonic Wrote:  Unfortunately, Islam has no historical sources at all for Jesus of Nazareth. Living 600 years after Jesus, Mohammad apparently did not have access to any genuine Christian scripture, and even if he had such texts he was illiterate and therefore could not have read them.

I personally do not buy into the myth that Muhammad was illiterate. He was in the caravan robbing business. He was a businessman after all and was married to a business woman. Most all business transactions require some amount of literacy to conduct contractual agreements. And what was in those caravans Muhammad looted? You think there were no books in the booty, no scrolls being transported here and there by their owners? I think there was a high probability that such items were part and parcel of caravan robbery. Evidence shows Muhammad's ideas of Christianity being influenced by Gnostic gospels wherein Jesus doesn't really die on the cross.
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02-19-2010, 06:16 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
(02-19-2010 05:46 PM)biomystic Wrote:  ...I personally do not buy into the myth that Muhammad was illiterate...

I actually agree with you on this point. But Muslims insist that he was illiterate, and so I was just going along with the storyline from the Islamic point of view.

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02-19-2010, 07:57 PM
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RE: What does Islam say about Jesus?
I started reading Elaine Pagels book Beyond Belief: the secret Gospel of Thomas. There is a decent wikipedia article about it also. I am glad that I bought the book. I also got three books today from amazon about the Q document.

1. The lost Gospel Q
2. Q the earliest Gospel
3. The lost Gospel: the Book of Q

I would share some details with you in near future, but the ones too controversial that will heat up the discussin here will have to wait until my self imposed restraint of a month is over.

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