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gospel o f barnaba
06-10-2009, 02:21 AM
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gospel o f barnaba
this is more of an inquiry than a discussion for me.
i've read a lot of chapters in the gospel of Barnaba.
the site claims that it was written by Barnaba himself, a disciple of Jesus
and that it was banned after the convention of 325A.D.

anyways can you people tell me what you know about this?
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06-10-2009, 04:58 AM
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RE: gospel o f barnaba
"...This Gospel is considered by the majority of academics, including Christians and some Muslims (such as Abbas el-Akkad) to be late and pseudepigraphical; however, some academics suggest that it may contain some remnants of an earlier apocryphal work edited to conform to Islam, perhaps Gnostic or Ebionite or Diatessaronic; and some Muslim scholars consider the surviving versions as transmitting a suppressed apostolic original. Some Islamic organizations cite it in support of the Islamic view of Jesus..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas)


"...Another book using that same title, the 'Gospel of Barnabas,' survives in two post-medieval manuscripts in Italian and Spanish. Contrary to the canonical Christian Gospels, and in accordance with the Islamic view of Jesus, this later 'Gospel of Barnabas' states that Jesus was not the son of God, but a prophet, and calls Paul 'the deceived.' The book also says Jesus rose alive into Heaven without having been crucified, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place. Allegedly also it mentions by name the Comforter, as Mohammad. This discord between Paul and Barnabas would be unlikely, according to the author of the Acts of the Apostles, whether Doctor Luke or Saint Barnabas, mentions several times the comradery between Paul and Barnabas..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnabas).

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06-11-2009, 11:23 AM
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RE: gospel o f barnaba
thanks for the info man,
but like i need to know about the origin of it.
i mean was it edited to fit any islamic teachings?
or has it always been like that?
they claim that it was found in a library in the vatican, and that it was kept there since about 385 A.D when the pope kept a copy of it in secret.. do u have anything on this?
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06-11-2009, 02:23 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2009 02:29 PM by Anglican.)
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RE: gospel o f barnaba
(06-11-2009 11:23 AM)digaxox Wrote:  thanks for the info man,
but like i need to know about the origin of it.
i mean was it edited to fit any islamic teachings?
or has it always been like that?
they claim that it was found in a library in the vatican, and that it was kept there since about 385 A.D when the pope kept a copy of it in secret.. do u have anything on this?



Here is an excerpt from one of the many critiques of the Gospel of Barnabas, and why it is not considered to be genuine:

Quote:1.) Christ. The word (Christ) is the Greek translation for the Hebrew word (Messiah). Both these words when translated into English mean the Anointed One or the Chosen One. This word is not an obscure or rarely used word, on the contrary it is one of the most famous words in the Jewish and Christian religions. There is no doubt that a religious Jew like Barnabas would have been very familiar with this word.

At the very start of the Gospel of Barnabas Jesus is called the Christ: God has during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ (p.2). However, throughout the book Jesus denies being the Messiah: Jesus confessed and said the truth, "I am not the Messiah" (chap. 42). How can Jesus be the Christ and deny being the Messiah when both words mean exactly the same thing? Whoever wrote this book did not know the Greek meaning of the word Christ is Messiah. Barnabas was a Hebrew who lived on the island of Cyprus, a Greek-speaking island, and travelled around the 1st century Greek-speaking world! He was Hebrew and knew Greek and could not have made this mistake with such a famous word.

2.) The Rulers of the 1st Century A.D. In chapter 3 we are told that Herod and Pilate both ruled in Judea at the time of Jesus' birth: There reigned at that time in Judaea Herod, by decree of Caesar Augustus, and Pilate was governor. This is historically wrong for Herod and Pilate never ruled Judea at the same time. Herod ruled Judea alone from 37-4 B.C., while Pilate ruled thirty years later from 26-36 A.D. The real Barnabas lived during the rule of Pilate, so if he really was the writer of this book, how could he make such a simple mistake?
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06-11-2009, 02:50 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2009 02:52 PM by Stereophonic.)
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RE: gospel o f barnaba
(06-11-2009 11:23 AM)digaxox Wrote:  ...they claim that it was found in a library in the vatican, and that it was kept there since about 385 A.D when the pope kept a copy of it in secret.. do u have anything on this?

Yes, this is an unfounded rumor propagated by Islamic anti-Christian polemicists.

Quote:Few academics argue that the text, in its present form, dates back any earlier than the 14th–16th centuries... ("http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas")

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06-11-2009, 04:03 PM (This post was last modified: 06-11-2009 04:05 PM by Stereophonic.)
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(06-11-2009 11:23 AM)digaxox Wrote:  ...it was found in a library in the vatican, and that it was kept there since about 385 A.D when the pope kept a copy of it in secret...

Anglican can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I don't think there was any such thing as "the vatican" back in 385 AD.

I don't think there was even any single "pope" back then, just bishops.

"The title of Pope was from the early third century an honorific designation used for any bishop in the West. In the East it was used only for the Bishop of Alexandria. From the 6th century, the imperial chancery of Constantinople normally reserved it for the Bishop of Rome. From the early sixth century it began to be confined in the West to the Bishop of Rome, a practice that was firmly in place by the eleventh century" ("http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope#The_title_Pope")

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