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is everything and everyone God?
07-11-2017, 01:35 PM
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Hello friends!Smile

According to popular belief in hinduism it is believed by many hindus that everything is God and eveyone is God. So a tree is God, a stone is God, a monkey is God and a human being is God too. If that's true then why are criminals punished for their crimes? Because a criminal is also God according to the definition of hinduism.Why not let him walk free because that's God who commited the crime.

Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

I would like to know the views of my fellow users here. Thanks.Smile
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07-12-2017, 06:52 AM
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(07-11-2017 01:35 PM)DaLion Wrote:  Hello friends!Smile

According to popular belief in hinduism it is believed by many hindus that everything is God and eveyone is God. So a tree is God, a stone is God, a monkey is God and a human being is God too. If that's true then why are criminals punished for their crimes? Because a criminal is also God according to the definition of hinduism.Why not let him walk free because that's God who commited the crime.

Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

I would like to know the views of my fellow users here. Thanks.Smile

This concept is only true at the deeper ultimate level, and it doesn't apply in the external wold.
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07-12-2017, 11:47 AM
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(07-12-2017 06:52 AM)Senthil Wrote:  This concept is only true at the deeper ultimate level, and it doesn't apply in the external wold.

Do you mean to say that GOD in deeper ultimate level who is all good manifests Himself as an evil being in the external world? Isn't God absolutely good and holy as we all know?
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07-12-2017, 02:12 PM
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(07-11-2017 01:35 PM)DaLion Wrote:  Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

Quite so - we should punish people who take a dump, because the toilet bowl is also god.

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07-12-2017, 02:20 PM
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(07-12-2017 02:12 PM)Herminator Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 01:35 PM)DaLion Wrote:  Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

Quite so - we should punish people who take a dump, because the toilet bowl is also god.

Next patient please Rolleyes

The spitter, litterbug and dumper are also God. So is the spit, the litter and the ... you know. Seems like every thing and every action is divine. So where's the problem?

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07-12-2017, 02:41 PM
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(07-12-2017 02:20 PM)Imprecise Interrupt Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 02:12 PM)Herminator Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 01:35 PM)DaLion Wrote:  Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

Quite so - we should punish people who take a dump, because the toilet bowl is also god.

Next patient please Rolleyes

The spitter, litterbug and dumper are also God. So is the spit, the litter and the ... you know. Seems like every thing and every action is divine. So where's the problem?

With the OP? Wink

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07-12-2017, 02:59 PM
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(07-12-2017 02:41 PM)Herminator Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 02:20 PM)Imprecise Interrupt Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 02:12 PM)Herminator Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 01:35 PM)DaLion Wrote:  Likewise, shouldn't we ban people from spitting or throwing garbage on the ground because the ground is also God(dharti mata).

Quite so - we should punish people who take a dump, because the toilet bowl is also god.

Next patient please Rolleyes

The spitter, litterbug and dumper are also God. So is the spit, the litter and the ... you know. Seems like every thing and every action is divine. So where's the problem?

With the OP? Wink

Michael: "Thou art God"

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07-12-2017, 06:44 PM
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(07-12-2017 11:47 AM)DaLion Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:52 AM)Senthil Wrote:  This concept is only true at the deeper ultimate level, and it doesn't apply in the external wold.

Do you mean to say that GOD in deeper ultimate level who is all good manifests Himself as an evil being in the external world? Isn't God absolutely good and holy as we all know?

In Hinduism there is no intrinsic evil like there is in Abrahamic religions. The paradigms are so very far apart it will be hard to communicate at all I suspect.

There is anava, or ignorance, and maya, that might make things appear evil.

The concept of God in dharmic faiths is usually monistic, whereas in Abrahamic faiths its generally very dualistic. Hard to find a middle ground between those two.
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07-12-2017, 07:40 PM
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Psalm 82:6. "I have said, ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High". We were all created in the image of God and God himself is a human being. But there is more to God than his physical manifestation. The earliest word for God, Elohim , is a majestic plural. God is Energy and the forces in nature. Electromagnetism, Gravitation, and the Nuclear forces. In that sense, God is everywhere. Daniel 11:38. "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..."
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07-13-2017, 01:41 AM (This post was last modified: 07-13-2017 02:20 AM by DaLion.)
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(07-12-2017 02:20 PM)Imprecise Interrupt Wrote:  The spitter, litterbug and dumper are also God. So is the spit, the litter and the ... you know. Seems like every thing and every action is divine. So where's the problem?

The problem is, if we take every action and every being to be divine then the world will go to ruins. Rapists, murderers and robbers will roam free without any fear because there will be no law to punish or control them.There will be no such thing as good or bad.There will be chaos everywhere because there will be no one to monitor good action and bad action.

Everything is not divine. The only divine being is the almighty God and everything else is his creation.
(07-12-2017 06:52 AM)Senthil Wrote:  In Hinduism there is no intrinsic evil like there is in Abrahamic religions. The paradigms are so very far apart it will be hard to communicate at all I suspect.

There is anava, or ignorance, and maya, that might make things appear evil.

The concept of God in dharmic faiths is usually monistic, whereas in Abrahamic faiths its generally very dualistic. Hard to find a middle ground between those two.

If there is no intrinsic evil then why do we have laws to punish people for their crimes? why don't we get rid of all the law enforcements and do whatever we like: rape, murder, rob?

And regarding maya, suppose robbers break into your house and rob you of all your money at gun point, then do you live rest of your life thinking that it was just maya that made the robbery appear evil?

What I believe is that what is evil is evil and what is good is good as defined by the almighty God.Our own opinions about good and evil are valueless. What matters is what God says about good and evil, and depending upon that we should take our action.
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