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04-29-2011, 10:12 AM
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My community provides beginning Kabbalah classes inside the Monroe Correctional Complex in Washington state.For months there were complaints and concerns about how unsafe the Rabbi felt. as there was just to many prisoners per guard ratio inside the chapel (one )
Last January a corrections officer ,Jayme Biendl ,a single mother,was killed in the chapel by a convicted rapist who was already serving a life sentence
All the religious programs have been suspended until the Institute of Corrections concluded an independent review.
That being completed and the demand of the inmates its ramping up again,the Rabbi that was there does not want to return because of the uneasy feelings of before the attack, A replacement is being sought
I received a letter yesterday about rules and regulations as far as clergy is concerned and found it rather humorous
Besides having to undergo many hours of training before entering the prison as a member of clergy, it says you will be immediately escorted off the grounds for coughing or sneezing without covering your mouth, yea, that’s the problem!!!
I do feel religious programs are an important outlet for inmates,But one must know that some inmates will come to the chapel for the wrong reasons they love to manipulate religious volunteers,I have seen it.These people in this prison have nothing to lose.
Do you think these programs are productive enough to continue?
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04-29-2011, 10:27 AM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2011 10:28 AM by kevlar.)
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RE: prisoners
If I had the answer Yeffi, then maybe I'd be god, but if I was, I maybe wouldn't create such people, but then again who knows. I can't help you Yeffi, sorry.

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04-29-2011, 12:04 PM
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RE: prisoners
Are they writing to you Yefet because they want you to volunteer for it? If you are considering it I hope that you can satisfy yourself that the prison has made sufficient changes to ensure better safety.

I think that the various religious programs on offer do have a purpose for those inmantes who embrace a faith system. I don't think they should be withdrawn due to the actions of some inmates who are taking advantage of the situation. Surely if we as a society believe that the purpose of incarceration after conviction is rehabilitation instead of nothing but punishment, then programs such as these matter. It's up to the prison system to make sure that they can protect volunteers however - and it doesn't sound as though it is currently safe enough at the facility you mention?
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04-29-2011, 02:09 PM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2011 02:11 PM by Yefet.)
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RE: prisoners
No, I am on the state mailing list from previous involvement at another facility.
This particular place is for people doing life, or harden criminals
The budget restraints of some of these places leave a lot of opportunity for those without the best intensions to flourish.
The ones that do have a sincere desire to study make it worthwhile but at what cost?
We are the only Jewish organization there, there is only a few left out of the original 70 or so religious groups. Is there a time where one can say enough, or is it a moral duty to continue? Is there a time when you can walk away ? or should that one person be enough to continue?
The gaurd that was killed ,complained in writing, just two weeks before her murder about inadequate safety in the chapel
According to the news she She was suppossed to have been off duty but no one came to relieve her.
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