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the TRUTH of Adam and EVE & EDEN
05-07-2010, 12:03 AM (This post was last modified: 05-07-2010 12:10 AM by prdamico.)
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the TRUTH of Adam and EVE & EDEN
NOTE: E.DEN

The origin of the term "Eden", which in Hebrew means "delight", may lie with the Akkadian word edinu, which itself derives from the Sumerian term E.DIN. The Sumerian term means "plain" or "steppe", so the connection between the words may be coincidental, although this word is known to have been used by the Sumerians to refer to Mesopotamia as the "valley of E'din", meaning the fertile lands between the Tigris and Euphrates.

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LORD - this word is in all caps in genesis ( standard king james version ), while god is in lower case.

EX. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

But notice the SERPENT does not call him lord god.

Now the serpent Rev. 12.9 ; 20.2 was more subtile than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

# Bel meaning 'Lord' is a common title of the Babylonian deity Marduk.
# En meaning 'Lord' as in Sumerian deities Enki and Enlil.

TREE OF LIFE :

The original Sumerian (Indo-Iranian) concept was that wisdom is likened to a tree whose fruit endows those who eat it with health and longevity. The symbol of an elixir of life had already been well established in antiquity by the Indo-Iranian cultures long before Judaism, Christianity, Islam and other cultures had the opportunity to recognise it.
A 4,500 year old clay tablet shows a man and a woman seated below the Tree of Life. Behind the woman is seen a serpent.

http://www.vohuman.org/Article/The%20Sum...20Life.htm


THE SERPENT :

The oldest known representation of two snakes entwined around a rod is that of the Sumerian fertility god Ningizzida. Enki's youngest son, Ningizzida, was Lord of the Tree of Truth, in Mesopotamia. His name in Sumerian is translated as "lord of the good tree, His symbolic animal is the bashmu dragon, a type of snake with horns. He was sometimes depicted as a serpent with a human head

THE OLD TESTAMENT IS A HISTORY ALRIGHT, BUT MAINLY OF THE ANCIENT SUMERIAN PEOPLE

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05-08-2010, 06:27 AM
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adam is grandfather god , eve is grandmother god .
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05-08-2010, 01:08 PM
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What I have found is that the serpent in this case to represent more of a reason why Eve chose evil.

She blames it on the serpent, when she is the one at fault. Maybe the serpent was the devil, but maybe the serpent just did what it pleased and gave off the notion that she can do the same.

My knowledge of this goes way beyond the bible, but what is said in the bible obviously gives way to a liking of my own personal knowledge. When they are kicked out of the garden, they have made the choice that granted it. This is the first bad decision made, and yet, to call it bad you have to think that this is truly a subtle life. They simply went against the rules of want, God didn't want them to eat that fruit. When God was disobeyed he punished them, which by my terms is rightful. Someone going against you deserves to be punished by you.

To say, the most interesting point here is the location of the garden...whereas there is too much evidence that says they existed near Mesopotamia. When it comes to God, who knows that they didn't just fall out of a heavenly body called the Garden into this area. Personally I think the garden didn't even exist on Earth.

I'm just speculating because this is way too far into the realm of possibility.
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05-08-2010, 05:29 PM
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(05-08-2010 01:08 PM)azurescen Wrote:  What I have found is that the serpent in this case to represent more of a reason why Eve chose evil.

She blames it on the serpent, when she is the one at fault. Maybe the serpent was the devil, but maybe the serpent just did what it pleased and gave off the notion that she can do the same.

My knowledge of this goes way beyond the bible, but what is said in the bible obviously gives way to a liking of my own personal knowledge. .

YOU have to remember the OLD TESTAMENT mainly deals with ancient SUMERIAN mythologies, like the garden of Eden, the tree of life, the flood story, the creation story, the first pantheon, etc.. these stories were believed for thousands of years,..In order to really understand there meanings, you have to read the ORIGINAL Sumerian mythologies, it will tell you a lot, for example in the garden there were multiple GODs and GODDESSes involved in creation, and in the garden, that is why GOD says look at man he is become like US....in the original story the US, was the other Annunaki......................


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05-10-2010, 10:50 PM
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What happened in the garden, was that the serpent or the devil, Lucifer himself, completely seduced Eve,(she lay with him=Cain and Adam=Abel), this was to interrupt the seed line through which Jesus Christ, our LOrd God would come to sacrifice for our sins by shedding his blood. But of course it did n't interrupt hence Seth. KJV
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05-14-2010, 09:19 PM (This post was last modified: 05-14-2010 09:22 PM by prdamico.)
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(05-10-2010 10:50 PM)mscoonie Wrote:  What happened in the garden, was that the serpent or the devil, Lucifer himself, completely seduced Eve,(she lay with him=Cain and Adam=Abel), this was to interrupt the seed line through which Jesus Christ, our LOrd God would come to sacrifice for our sins by shedding his blood. But of course it did n't interrupt hence Seth. KJV

Actually the serpent was NINGIZZIDA :

Ningishzida/Ningizzida (sum: dnin-ǧiš-zi-da) is a Mesopotamian deity of the underworld. He is the patron of medicine( his symbol was the first Caduceus ever used, even predating the one from Hermes ), and may also be considered a god of nature and fertility. His name in Sumerian is translated as "lord of the good tree"[1] by Thorkild Jacobsen and "lord who makes the trees grow right" by James Well.[2] In Sumerian mythology, he appears in Adapa's myth as one of the two guardians of Anu's celestial palace, alongside Dumuzi ( the Sumerian Shepherd GOD, who died and was resurrected, there is another Dumuzi but he is called the fisherman ( weird huh ??) both were Sumerian Kings -and both are on the list of kings ). Ningizzida was sometimes depicted as a serpent with a human head.
His symbolic animal is the bashmu dragon, a type of snake with horns. He is also associated with the Hydra constellation.


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06-28-2010, 10:55 PM
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certainly there are parallels in all of the early religions. What we need to recall is when they were written. God claims to have created all things and when did moses write that. Dating stuff in history is a guesswork at best up to a point. Fossils existing 35 million years ago i doubt it very much.
How can the jewish faith not be the first faith when it is said to be from the one who created all things? Just because moses wrote, what he wrote when he wrote it was not the creation of the jewish religion. god walked in the garden but i guess he should have handed adam a pen first huh.
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07-23-2010, 11:22 AM
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Christians, Catholics, Born Again, and other religious organizations believe that the sins of mankind were inherited through the transgressions of Adam and Eve.

But if we read and scrutinize the teachings of the bible we will find that this belief is contrary to what was written. The old and new testament clearly indicates that the sins of every human being can not be inherited. Many passages in the bible will prove these things.

Let us just read what was stated in Matthew 7:1 and 2,….

”Judged not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

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07-23-2010, 01:16 PM
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(07-23-2010 11:22 AM)annoneone Wrote:  But if we read and scrutinize the teachings of the bible we will find

it does not address the 20,000 years of goddess worship that preceded all of your bible babble that former IGNORANT bible scholars had suggested began around 4004 BC.

remember

but since science exposed this FRAUD, using carbon dating, tree rings, ice core samples, RELIGION has changed the official line.

just more LIES are made up to support the biggest LIE of all time

jesus

never existed
NOT ONE EYEWITNESS

can we use another another history book, that acknowledges 20,000 years of HER-STORY that preceded your contrived HIS-story BS, that was scripted to appease a bunch of IGNORANT illiterate humans.

can we move on?

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07-26-2010, 11:06 PM
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I would of eaten the fruit too. Just saying. It is human to want what we cant have. God created humans, who behaved humanly. God got what he deserved.
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